Swapped out Interface-Stuff Stopped working

[thetaz01]

mark,
am using your insteon plug in v 3.0.5.10..
my Serial plug in interface crapped out.. I ordered a new one.. used the swap interface button on the manage page..
went through all devices but for some reason, about 20-30 of them did NOT get reprogrammed..The new interface is in the same outlet as the original, and the communication I had across the board was excellent/good.. never any poor or unreachable, since the new controller it cant talk to several devices..
I tried regetting the links, and programming for homeseer, but it says the controller cant be reached.. please help.. half my system isn't working..
whats the easiest way to resolve all this>.

[mnsandler]

mark,
am using your insteon plug in v 3.0.5.10..
my Serial plug in interface crapped out.. I ordered a new one.. used the swap interface button on the manage page..
went through all devices but for some reason, about 20-30 of them did NOT get reprogrammed..The new interface is in the same outlet as the original, and the communication I had across the board was excellent/good.. never any poor or unreachable, since the new controller it cant talk to several devices..
I tried regetting the links, and programming for homeseer, but it says the controller cant be reached.. please help.. half my system isn't working..
whats the easiest way to resolve all this>.

you can rerun the swap routine. it will only update devices with the old plm ID.

[thetaz01]

So I went to do that when I got home last night,, However unfortunately, I already threw out the old PLM I don't remember the ID?? :-/
what can/do I do now?

[mnsandler]

No problem. Just look on the main config page, there should be a list of devices with unregistered Insteon IDs. One of these IDs must be the old PLM.

[thetaz01]

The old PLM isn't plugged in anymore.. its gone..




here is whats listed..
The following are unregistered Insteon addresses found in the network.
1C.FC.8B found in Access Control Driveway Entry
1C.FC.8B found in Access Control Driveway Exit
1C.FC.8B found in Attic East Gable Vent Fan
1C.FC.8B found in Burner Room Light
1C.FC.8B found in Cats Room Fluorescent Light
1C.FC.8B found in Cats Room Night Light
1C.FC.8B found in Cats Room Vent Fan
1C.FC.8B found in Dining Room Ceiling Fan Light
1C.FC.8B found in Dining Room South Wall Outlet (Xmas Lights)
1C.FC.8B found in Dining Room Speakers
1C.FC.8B found in Foyer Light
1C.FC.8B found in Foyer Light (Slave)
1C.FC.8B found in Foyer Main House Fan
1C.FF.74 found in Foyer Main House Fan
1C.FC.8B found in Foyer Night Light
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Bathroom Fluorescent Light
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Bedroom Bubble Lights
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Bedroom Ceiling Fan
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Bedroom Ceiling Fan Wall Switch
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Bedroom Controller
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Bedroom Humidifier
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Bedroom Light
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Bedroom Light (Slave)
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Bedroom Small Closet Light
21.D2.F5 found in Fred Jrs Bedroom Small Closet Light
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Bedroom Walk in Closet Light
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Hallway Light
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Hallway Light (Slave)
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Living Room Couch Light
1B.4F.CE found in Fred Jrs Living Room Fluorescent Light
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Living Room Fluorescent Light
1D.56.61 found in Fred Jrs Living Room Fluorescent Light
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Living Room Night Light
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Living Room RemoteLinc
1C.FC.8B found in Fred Jrs Living Room Survellance Monitor
1C.40.36 found in Guest Room Christmas Lights
1C.FC.8B found in Guest Room Table Lamp (Outlet)
1D.CF.AE found in Guest Room Table Lamp (Outlet)
1C.FC.8B found in Hallway Portable Fan
1C.FC.8B found in House Smoke Bridge
1C.FC.8B found in Kitchen Back Door Light
1C.FC.8B found in Kitchen Light Over Table
1C.FC.8B found in Living Room Christmas Lights
1C.FC.8B found in Living Room Survellance Monitor
1C.FC.8B found in Master Bathroom Light
1C.FC.8B found in Master Bathroom Light (Slave)
1C.40.36 found in Master Bedroom Air Conditioner
1C.FC.8B found in Master Bedroom Ceiling Fan
1C.FC.8B found in Master Bedroom Table Lamps
1C.FC.8B found in Office Christmas Lights
1C.FC.8B found in Office Day Light
1C.FC.8B found in Office Fan
1C.40.36 found in Outside Front Walkway Motion Light
1C.FC.8B found in Outside Front Walkway Motion Light
1C.40.36 found in Store Room Fluorescent Light
1C.40.36 found in Store Room Reloading Tumbler
1C.FC.8B found in Under Stairs Water Main Shutoff


Externally registered device: 1B.02.CE (Insteon Address 1B.02.CE) registered through method
Externally registered device: 1E.79.14 (Insteon Address 1E.79.14) registered through method
Externally registered device: Fred Jrs Bedroom (Insteon Address 2C.10.FD) registered through method
Externally registered device: Fred Jrs Living Room (Insteon Address 20.46.78) registered through method
Externally registered device: Master Bedroom (Insteon Address 2C.0F.61) registered through method
Externally registered device: Upstairs (Insteon Address 2C.0A.AB) registered through method

[mnsandler]

1C.FC.8B is most likely the old PLM ID

[thetaz01]

Ok, giving that a shot now..
Im assuming that everything in that LIST should go away ONCE it has the new PLM ID correct?

[mnsandler]

only entries with that ID will disappear. you can investigate the others.

rerun the swap if it doesn't work 100%. the other option is to run the 'program device for homeseer' then delete the old links with the old PLM ID

[thetaz01]

Hmm, ok running it again seems to have made that list a lot smaller...
however still a few that aren't registered I will try running again and check the individual devices since the list is small now..
also I do have a question and this might NOT be something you can answer.. I am using the insteon thermostats, with the plug in but since the PLM change. my device references for the thermostats are gone, I was able to put a thermostat in link mode and have the plug in re-scan for it, but it didn't re-add the devices in the device page

[mnsandler]

Hmm, ok running it again seems to have made that list a lot smaller...
however still a few that aren't registered I will try running again and check the individual devices since the list is small now..
also I do have a question and this might NOT be something you can answer.. I am using the insteon thermostats, with the plug in but since the PLM change. my device references for the thermostats are gone, I was able to put a thermostat in link mode and have the plug in re-scan for it, but it didn't re-add the devices in the device page

glad you are making progress.

I have to refer you to the thermostat forum for help with the unit. I don't even use one myself.

[claude]

... I was able to put a thermostat in link mode and have the plug in re-scan for it, but it didn't re-add the devices in the device page

If you look in the HS log, you might find some error message from the Insteon thermostat plugin complaining that it can't connect to the thermostat. I believe links are handled by the thermostat plugin, so when you changed your PLM, Mark's swap routine doesn't address the thermostat.

Here's my suggestion (no guaranties):
1- If you can you find the hspi_insteon_thermostat.ini in "...\HomeSeer HS3\Config", first make a backup copy of it; actually, make a backup of everything, juts in case
2- In "Plug-ins\Insteon thermostat\Insteon thermostat Config", delete your old thermostat (if it still shows)
3- Then "Add new" in "Plug-ins\Insteon thermostat\Insteon thermostat Config": this should relink the thermostat to your new PLM
4- Bring down HS and overwrite the just created hspi_insteon_thermostat.ini with your previously saved copy: you should see your programs again, once you fire up HS

[nfrobertson]

Thanks for helping him out Claude.

Under Plug-ins\Insteon thermostat\Insteon thermostat Config you should have a button option off to the right of your thermostat to "Update Links" The point of that is to write the necessary links into the PLM (via Mark's plugin) so that the PLM and thermostat can talk to each other.

Nathan