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    I've setup a Meraki camera with a mosquitto broker. Works great. Except, it spans 4-5 times a second the values. 99.99999% of the time, the value is 0, yet sends thousands of those 0 messages. And mcsMQTT is setting the device thousands of times.

    The problem is with events. The value is being set, but not changed. Yet almost every single one still fires 4-5 times a second. The one I've been able to keep from blasting events is "This device changes and becomes..." with "a custom value or value range of" and then enter between 0 and some large number. But then eventually, it starts spamming. Any other event that says change still fires, even though it's not changing and only being set.

    Thus one of my asks is if there is a way to quelch the setting. If the value doesn't change, can it not be set. Even a simple if old == new don't do anything (or only set on old != new).

  • #2
    This would have to be a user option as there are situations where users want the event when the value does not change.

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    • #3
      I put 4.0.1.0 at http://mcsSprinklers.com/mcsMQTT_4_0_1_0.zip. Only HSPI_MCSMQTT.exe was updated. I have not updated the manual yet.

      On the Edit tap/popup you will see a new radio for Control/Status UI of NumberChange. Change your problem device to this radio and assess if it takes care of your spamming.

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      • #4
        Thanks for the code! Unfortunately, the behavior does not appear to have changed.

        After some additional testing, I notice logging occurs immediately when the value changes. Then reports every value until the value hasn't changed for ~3 minutes.

        Code:
        Jun-06 18:05:41           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 1     // MQTT value goes to 1
        Jun-06 18:05:42           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 1
        Jun-06 18:05:42           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 1
        <truncated>
        Jun-06 18:05:48           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 1
        Jun-06 18:05:48           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 1
        Jun-06 18:05:49           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 0    // MQTT value goes to 0
        Jun-06 18:05:50           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 0
        Jun-06 18:05:50           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 0
        Jun-06 18:05:50           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 0
        Jun-06 18:05:50           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 0
        Jun-06 18:05:50           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 0
        Jun-06 18:05:51           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 0
        <truncated 527 log messages of 0>
        Jun-06 18:08:44           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 0
        Jun-06 18:08:44           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 0
        Jun-06 18:08:44           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 0
        Jun-06 18:08:44           Camera Person Count     Device: Main FrontPorch Camera Set to 0
        <EOL>
        I've run the above several times and getting roughly a 3-minute "cool off" before the event stops kicking. I'd put an event "Cannot Re-Run For:" logic on it, but then I'd miss some value changes (logging wise as I'm logging to Splunk).

        Here's the event code, but I show below this occurs even when all events are disabled.

        IF Main FrontYard All Persons has a value that just changed.
        THEN Execute the command:
        Code:
        &shs.WriteLog("Camera Person Count", String.Format("Device: <font color='#000080'>Main FrontPorch Camera</font> Set to <font color='#008000'>{0}</font>", hs.DeviceValue(30)));
        30 being the HS device attached to this Association. I've tried "Has a value that just changed", "changes and becomes Any Value", "was set and has a value that is greater than 0".

        I also notice on the home page the "Last Change" updates the time every 2 seconds until the ~3-minute mark. This occurs even if all events are disabled.

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        • #5
          Can something else other than mcsMQTT be setting the device? Why are you using events associated with this device? If you enable debug from General Tab there will be more detail about the actions performed by mcsMQTT in the folder \data\mcsMQTT. This file can be posted.

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          • #6
            I'm using events to get some notifications and run a bit of automation (see people enter a zone, grab a screenshot, download it, and provide a link to the timestamps recording).

            In the mean time, I'm just trying to log the changes to get a sense of noise (it can vary and get noisy in some edge cases).

            Here's the requested information. I think I see what's going on.

            The low pass filter I have set to 0.75. Anytime the DB value changes it sends an HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE, even if the underlying HS Device doesn't change. We see in 49254489 the VALUE_CHANGE event sets the device to 1. Then again in 49254673, even though the HS Device was already 1, we set it to 1 again. Then once the data goes to 0, we decay with every tick sending an HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE even though the underlying HS Device didn't change.

            Code:
            6/7/2019 7:30:49 AM    49254304    | Update Accepted 30 to 0 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:49 AM    49254305    | Updating Device from 0 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:49 AM    49254315    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917849730, "counts":{"person":0}}  
            
            6/7/2019 7:30:49 AM    49254483    | Update Accepted 30 to 1 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:49 AM    49254486    | Updating Device from 0 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:49 AM    49254489    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 1| 0| 30  
            6/7/2019 7:30:49 AM    49254497    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917849927, "counts":{"person":1}}  
            
            6/7/2019 7:30:49 AM    49254665    | Update Accepted 30 to 1 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:49 AM    49254669    | Updating Device from 0.75 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:49 AM    49254673    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 1| 1| 30  
            6/7/2019 7:30:49 AM    49254686    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917850129, "counts":{"person":1}}  
            
            6/7/2019 7:30:50 AM    49254819    | Update Accepted 30 to 1 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:50 AM    49254821    | Updating Device from 0.9375 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:50 AM    49254823    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 1| 1| 30  
            6/7/2019 7:30:50 AM    49254830    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917850337, "counts":{"person":1}}  
            
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49255992    | Update Accepted 30 to 1 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49255994    | Updating Device from 0.984375 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49255996    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 1| 1| 30  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256005    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917851433, "counts":{"person":1}}  
            
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256153    | Update Accepted 30 to 1 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256156    | Updating Device from 0.99609375 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256158    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 1| 1| 30  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256210    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917851629, "counts":{"person":1}}  
            
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256299    | Update Accepted 30 to 0 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256301    | Updating Device from 0.9990234375 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256303    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 0| 1| 30  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256310    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917851729, "counts":{"person":0}}  
            
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256429    | Update Accepted 30 to 0 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256430    | Updating Device from 0.249755859375 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256433    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 0| 0| 30  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256441    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917851879, "counts":{"person":0}}  
            
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256584    | Update Accepted 30 to 0 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256586    | Updating Device from 0.06243896484375 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256588    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 0| 0| 30  
            6/7/2019 7:30:51 AM    49256597    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917852083, "counts":{"person":0}}  
            
            6/7/2019 7:30:52 AM    49256740    | Update Accepted 30 to 0 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:52 AM    49256742    | Updating Device from 0.0156097412109375 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:52 AM    49256750    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 0| 0| 30  
            6/7/2019 7:30:52 AM    49256762    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917852181, "counts":{"person":0}}  
            
            6/7/2019 7:30:52 AM    49256881    | Update Accepted 30 to 0 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:52 AM    49256882    | Updating Device from 0.00390243530273438 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:52 AM    49256884    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 0| 0| 30  
            6/7/2019 7:30:52 AM    49256893    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917852379, "counts":{"person":0}}  
            
            6/7/2019 7:30:53 AM    49258058    | Update Accepted 30 to 0 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 7:30:53 AM    49258064    | Updating Device from 0.000975608825683594 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 7:30:53 AM    49258067    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 0| 0| 30  
            6/7/2019 7:30:53 AM    49258075    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559917853578, "counts":{"person":0}}
            I verified this by changing the Low Pass filter to 1. We only see an HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE when the underlying payload changes as there is no decay.

            Code:
            6/7/2019 8:42:26 AM    146717    | Update Accepted 30 to 0 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 8:42:26 AM    146719    | Updating Device from 0 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 8:42:26 AM    146732    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559922146729, "counts":{"person":0}}  
            
            6/7/2019 8:42:26 AM    146876    | Update Accepted 30 to 1 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 8:42:26 AM    146877    | Updating Device from 0 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 8:42:26 AM    146880    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 1| 0| 30  
            6/7/2019 8:42:26 AM    146897    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559922146925, "counts":{"person":1}}  
            
            6/7/2019 8:42:26 AM    147045    | Update Accepted 30 to 1 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 8:42:26 AM    147046    | Updating Device from 1 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 8:42:26 AM    147060    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559922147118, "counts":{"person":1}}  
            
            6/7/2019 8:42:27 AM    148280    | Update Accepted 30 to 0 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 8:42:27 AM    148281    | Updating Device from 1 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 8:42:27 AM    148283    | HSEvent VALUE_CHANGE| 1024| /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0| 0| 1| 30  
            6/7/2019 8:42:27 AM    148295    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559922148318, "counts":{"person":0}}  
            
            6/7/2019 8:42:27 AM    148418    | Update Accepted 30 to 0 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 8:42:27 AM    148419    | Updating Device from 0 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 8:42:27 AM    148432    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559922148523, "counts":{"person":0}}  
            
            6/7/2019 8:42:27 AM    148561    | Update Accepted 30 to 0 StatusType=7  
            6/7/2019 8:42:27 AM    148563    | Updating Device from 0 PayloadNumeric=True  
            6/7/2019 8:42:27 AM    148574    | ActoOnMessageForTrigger Topic /merakimv/Q2JV-NEX5-J7A7/0,Payload={"ts":1559922148624, "counts":{"person":0}}
            It would be nice to use the low pass filter and only send a VALUE_CHANGE when the value actually changes. This type of data tends to be a bit noisy on edge cases.

            The current HS Device value is being retrieved (or saved) so having an option to not set when they're equal would be very helpful in my case. I find it a bit ironic that the low pass filter reduces data noise while increasing control value noise.

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            • #7
              The HS device contains a type Double number and changes in this device are what you are observing. You can see this from Device Management Advanced tab. The displayed value or Status precision is just a formatting option.

              In 4.0.0.1.1 I changed the order of the low pass filter and the numeric expression evaluation so that it is possible to apply a low pass filter and then use the ROUND function to control the number of digits after the decimal that will be retrained. For example, with one digit of precision the Expression would be ROUND($$PAYLOAD:,1). This will have the effect of filtering out short duration peaks and provide a staircase-like value in HS. Something like applying hysteresis. It is at http://mcsSprinklers.com/mcsMQTT_4_0_1_1.zip

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