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  • MNB
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    Understand, thank-you for taking the time to explain, Mike

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  • logbuilder
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    As I said, I stack scenes. They often overlap so turning one off would impact an overlapping scene. If you come up with a use case that needs an event for turning a scene off, go for it. I just haven't.

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  • MNB
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    Robert, thanxs for the comeback, I'm confused on your statement "
    In my thinking, nothing happens/triggers when a scene VD gets turned off - only when they get turned on." I thought you had Scenes that turned lights when the VD were turned OFF I guess I missed that point as I had created both ON and OFF scenes based on the VD state of ON or OFF which works great. I was going to create a scene that when a physical light switch was turned On or Off that it would trigger its appropriate VD to provide a real time state much like a remote, your thoughts? Mike

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  • logbuilder
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    The virtual devices are associated with the scenes. The scene VD gets turned on which triggers the event which turns on/ff multiple real devices. The VD for the scene usually stays on until the sleeping scene turns them off. In my thinking, nothing happens/triggers when a scene VD gets turned off - only when they get turned on.

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  • MNB
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    Robert, I just finished working through all my light associated events and switched them from turn a specific device(s) ON or OFF methodology to controlling my specific virtual devices to ON or OFF as I did for my remotes which seems to work swimmingly, my question is when I physically turn on a light switch it simply turns the light(s) On or Off but the virtual devices that were currently using status/state doesn't reflect what was done so if I had turned a light on with my remote the VD would indicate an ON status but if I turn the same light OFF via a physical wall switch it turns the light OFF but the VD status still shows a ON condition. Any thoughts as to how one syncs the physical actions with Virtual Devices? Mike

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  • MNB
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    Thanxs Frank, I've never used this function within EasyTrigger so it was my first time, but it seemed to be rather straight forward. Thanxs for the link I will read up on Spuds plug-in, is there something I need to do to get $$GLOBALVAR's to work I don't see anything in the set, it does create the 6 etdevices but no type or values.

    UPDATE: I'm assuming that I have to wait for the Battery devices to report sometime within every 24 hr before I will see anything within the Global Variables?
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  • logbuilder
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    That is in the config section of the EasyTrigger plugin. It is where you define a dynamic group. You define the criteria for inclusion and the plugin creates the group for you.

    I'm a big fan of EasyTrigger. If you aren't familiar with it, here is a subforum for it where you could learn more.

    https://forums.homeseer.com/forum/ul...sytrigger-spud




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  • MNB
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    Robert, is this a plug-in if so what is it? Never mind I found it within the EasyTrigger Plug-in.

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  • MNB
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    Thanxs Robert for the example (pic worth a thousand words!). I have a similar event to monitor batteries but not using the Group definition. Mike

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  • logbuilder
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    Here is a group definition as well as an event that uses it. The use case is to send an email when batteries get low. Any device with Battery in teh name will be included in the group. The nice thing about the dynamic nature is that when you add a new device, you only need to get the name or location right. The event is new so the trigger is set high so I can see it work as battery levels change.

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  • MNB
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    Robert, per chance can you provide an example of how your using EZTrigger as to grouping? Mike

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  • logbuilder
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    Glad to have provided a different way of thinking about it.

    As another item to consider, I don't use any grouping functions provided by device specific plugins. In other words, the grouping in Insteon does work but it is Insteon specific. The grouping in the z-wave plugin didn't work when I tested it sometime back. My devices are a mixed bag of Insteon, z-wave, and wifi so device specific grouping could never cover all the different types. The grouping in the EZTrigger plugin can cross device technologies. The dynamic grouping is really cool as long as you have some sort of standardization on naming and locations.

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  • MNB
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    Hey Robert, I had a chance to absorb and changed my MiniMote and WallMotes over to your scene approach which after working a few bug out seems to work swimmingly! Instead of HSTouch, I use ImperialHome App and am working on adopting your HSTouch concept to suite my scenarios. At first it seemed like I was creating a fair number of Virtual devices, Scene Control (events) based on my Wall/MiniMote devices followed by specific Scene Routines (events) that make the scenes do specific tasks. So again thanxs for sharing your methodology and approaches, Mike

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  • MNB
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    Robert, thanxs for taking the time to explain, I find I learn so much more when people share their approaches/techniques (visual learner). Your mini-Remote example explains how your toggling your virtual device between Off/On which I will try to adapt myself. I also liked your "Smoking and Grilling" Scene! are guests welcomed? Mike

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  • logbuilder
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    In regards to turning scenes off.... after pondering and studying how we actually behave... I decided upon allowing stacking rather than turning a scene off.

    An example might help. Our house is very open and is two levels. Downstairs is the kitchen and living room. Upstairs is an open loft area where we watch TV and often eat dinner. As it begins to get dark, we active the 'Downstairs Leisure' scene that sets the light levels (almost all my lights are dimmable) for relaxing in the living room which is right next to the kitchen so the kitchen lights are set to 25%. When it is time to start cooking, we activate (stack) the 'Cooking' scene which effectively overrides the kitchen lights to a lighter dim level. When cooking is done and we move upstairs to each and watch TV, we stack a 'Watching TV While Eating' scene which sets the loft lights to a level that is low but you can still see to eat, sets kitchen to 25% dim, and turns off living room overhead can lights cause they are annoying when watching TV from the loft , and sets the cans over the stairs to a level to allow safe travel up and down but low enough to not impact watching TV. When we finish eating, we activate the 'Watching TV' scene which lowers the loft light levels even more.

    Oh, there is a 'All Scenes Off' scene that turns all lights off and all scenes off. After bunches of scene stacking, sometimes I'll use it to return to a clean base scene.

    Here is a capture of the HSTouch andriod app that we use for all local control and well as remote access and control. This is the Scenes Control Screen. It will give you a flavor of the types of scenes we use.

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