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  • brientim
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    Get a keypad!

    Send keys are included in the TPI, however, it has very limited strings and you need to tie sequences together. The send keys mimics commands as sent by a keypad entry but you'll have no visibility or feedback.

    For quick and easy access and even quick programming a keypad is advisable.

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  • sparkman
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    Originally posted by hoffsta View Post
    I just bought a PC1864 board with Envisalink 4 and I want to program it using the DLS software. If I built the cable you describe above, I would not need to buy the PC-Link adapter, is that correct?
    Correct.

    Originally posted by hoffsta View Post
    So I would build the cable, add a Serial to USB adapter to plug into my laptop, and then run the DLS software. Someone mentioned needing a keypad to enter the programming mode. Is it possible to send the needed commands to enter programming mode from the Envisalink or will I need to buy a keypad as well? Thanks!
    I believe you can send keypad commands with the different DSC plugins, so that should be doable.

    Cheers
    Al

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  • hoffsta
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    Originally posted by rprade View Post
    I built the adaptor using a 9-pin serial connector and an old 4-pin connector from a computer fan. I run the DLS software on the HomeSeer server. If I need to change the program for the panel, I RDP into the HS server, make the changes, then upload them to the panel. My panel and the server are in the same closet but since the bit rate on the connection is so low, you could probably run the serial connection a pretty good distance.

    You can find the pin outs with a Google search.

    http://pinouts.ru/DevicesCables/dsc_...n_pinout.shtml
    I just bought a PC1864 board with Envisalink 4 and I want to program it using the DLS software. If I built the cable you describe above, I would not need to buy the PC-Link adapter, is that correct? So I would build the cable, add a Serial to USB adapter to plug into my laptop, and then run the DLS software. Someone mentioned needing a keypad to enter the programming mode. Is it possible to send the needed commands to enter programming mode from the Envisalink or will I need to buy a keypad as well? Thanks!

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  • Mack1979
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    My alarm installer remotely accesses my DSC alarm and re-programs it. I can only assume he is using the internet connection. Maybe that's because that links to the monitoring station hardware (which they also supply), but I would have thought that would mean with the DSC software and the right access codes I could connect?

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  • aoz
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    ok, to clarify, there is NOT a serial to ethernet (network) connection; it is just running the connections through that type of wire?
    so that the computer still needs the serial-to-usb-connection?

    if so, then I DO have the cable that I built PRIOR, for the PC-LINK, (I had unhooked it once the network connection was available), and can put it back into service.

    My frustration was that I had to run it from my single computer where the serial-to-usb connection existed.

    IF it goes through the homeseer setup (I just have the Z-net box for interface), can that be accessed through other devices on my home network?
    thanks
    nick

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  • rprade
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    Originally posted by aoz View Post
    just got DSC 1832, and EVL4 board.
    you mentioned the serial-to-ethernet converter? any suggestion on brand, site to buy?

    also, does this let me access the DSC software, through my home network, through PC-LINK, even though it is originating as serial?

    I HAVE an alexor system which is dying, got a wireless board for that that did allow access of the DSC software, and programming, through the home internet. but i am replacing it with the dsc 1832, etc.

    any help appreciated
    thanks
    Actually tomtomtom mentioned a USB to serial converter. The DSC PC series boards have a serial interface on the board. As Al said, the Envisalink connects through the keyboard bus. You can als connect a serial connection to the DSC board. What I do is use a USB to serial converter from my HomeSeer server to a serial interface on the panel. I built the adaptor using a 9-pin serial connector and an old 4-pin connector from a computer fan. I run the DLS software on the HomeSeer server. If I need to change the program for the panel, I RDP into the HS server, make the changes, then upload them to the panel. My panel and the server are in the same closet but since the bit rate on the connection is so low, you could probably run the serial connection a pretty good distance.

    You can find the pin outs with a Google search.

    http://pinouts.ru/DevicesCables/dsc_...n_pinout.shtml

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  • aoz
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    just got DSC 1832, and EVL4 board.
    you mentioned the serial-to-ethernet converter? any suggestion on brand, site to buy?

    also, does this let me access the DSC software, through my home network, through PC-LINK, even though it is originating as serial?

    I HAVE an alexor system which is dying, got a wireless board for that that did allow access of the DSC software, and programming, through the home internet. but i am replacing it with the dsc 1832, etc.

    any help appreciated
    thanks

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  • tomtomtom
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    I have both (serial and envisalink under Spud plugin) plug at the same time for more than a year now.
    There is a server running homeseer and the serial cable on it with a usb adapter.
    I use DLS 5 software to program the DSC panel easily.
    It's safe and reliable. Not easy to setup at the beginning but it's working. You still have to access a keyboard to put the panel in programming mode (download and upload data) but I guess that you can send a series of keystroke with the envisalink plugin to simulate a keyboard stroke.

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  • JohnD
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    Thanks Al

    That was the part I was missing.

    John

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  • sparkman
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    Hi John, yes, you can have both connected at the same time. The Envisalink connects to the keyboard bus, not the serial port on the DSC panel.

    Cheers
    Al

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  • JohnD
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    thanks Al

    would I be able to use both the Envisalink and serial cable to ethernet adapter at the same time?

    John

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  • sparkman
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    Originally posted by JohnD View Post
    I am a very visual person and a little dyslexic. I hate programing things with a keypad. It tend to be frustrating.
    If you're not using the keypad, then you need the DLS software to program the panel and connect to the 4 pin serial interface on the panel. I have the serial port on the panel connected to a serial to ethernet adapter and can then access the panel from anywhere on my network using serial port redirector software.

    Cheers
    Al

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  • JohnD
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    programing DSC alarm panel with envisalink

    I am a very visual person and a little dyslexic. I hate programing things with a keypad. It tend to be frustrating.

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  • spud
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    not sure I understand...

    you can program your DSC panel from the keypad, there is no need to drag your computer to your closet.

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  • JohnD
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    Programming would be a major selling point

    I think the Envisalink looks like a great product. I do not have a PC laptop and do not really want to drag a computer into my closet to set up or adjust my alarm panel. I am also wondering If I would have to disconnect the Envisalink to connect the serial cable to the alarm board.

    I think the best practice would be to only allow access to programing from the ethernet, not the web.

    Thanks. I look forward to buying an Envisalink as part of my new alarm system.

    John

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