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  • Pete
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    John...

    The Ethernet interface and firmware for said interface on the entire Omni line of combo security panels is primitive from the 1990's in design and was not meant to be used as it is being utilized today.

    The access/programming is pretty locked down (because of security) and only HAI or Leviton provide software to program the panel.

    No third party has ever written any software to program the panel when it was still owned by HAI and today by Leviton.

    Way back only Snaplink and Omnitouch and Omnitouch Pro software could access some of the security panel stuff...well like enabling alarm, seeing status et al.

    Before the implentation of the Ethernet port on the Omni panels Homeseer Tink wrote a serial plugin to access the abundant serial based Omni panels.

    That said the panel still lives using a primitive serial bus; much like an automobile or aeroplane today.

    For use of the ethernet port all that is needed is an IP and the two keys to access the ethernet port. All software connecting via the ethernet port has to be configured with the IP of the ethernet port and the two keys. The panel does not do DHCP. Note that the IP of the ethernet port has to reside on your network at home.

    An example would be:

    Your home subnet would be:

    Subnet 192.168.0.0
    Range of IPs > 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254
    Mask 255.255.255.0
    Gateway IP and DNS could be something like 192.168.0.1

    A computer on this network would use either DHCP or a static IP between 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254

    By default most combo ISP routers use the entire subnet for DHCP.

    Ideally maybe here you want to adjust the scope of DHCP to something like: 192.168.0.129 - 192.168.0.254 and use static IPs for 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.128
    and put the IP of the Omni Panel in the static IP range.

    Thinking too you can set a dhcp reservation for the Omni panel even though it is not using DHCP and that would work.

    Most important is that the IP you configure with the OmniPanel reside in the IP subnet you are using at home such that other devices on your network can access the panel.

    You can configure the IP and keys using the installer code which I hope you have for your panel on an Omni Keypad. Typically the alarm user access codes are different than the alarm installer code. IE: the installer menu on the keypad is only accessible using the installer code.

    3rd parties have written interfaces over the last 15 years that let you do basics with the OmniPanel but still not replicating what PC Access does for the installer.

    Rob's Omni Plugin is just that. It is an interface to the Omni panel. It is not a replicate of the PC Access software for installers.

    Personally here have owned PC Acess for Installers since version 1 of said program. If you need help programming your Omni Panel PM me and we can arrange a virtual visit to your panel.


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  • jnachbar@hotmail.com
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    I want to express my thanks for your assistance. For some reason I don't understand, I was able to connect homeseer to my Omni panel over last weekend. I know seem to be on my way. Again, thanks for your time.

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  • Pete
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    Yes you can only see the Omni Pro configuration with the end user PCA. To make changes you ned the installer version.

    You can see the Firmware level revision of the chips you have via the end user PCA.

    What version of firmware are you using?

    Note this is only piece of it. You can just utilize the Omni Plugin to read the OmniPro configuration as it is with the zones, units et al. You do not have to touch the configuration on the OmniPro panel if you are OK with the way it is. It is just recommended if you want to add more sensors or lighting et al.

    What hardware do you have connected to the Omni Pro panel?
    Do you have any OmniTouch screens (legacy serial or new IP?)

    Are you using X10, UPB, Zigbee or ZWave lighting controllers with your panel?

    What type of light switches do you have?

    Was the panel installed by a HAI dealer or did you DIY your panel installation?
    Is it connected to a alarm service via Telephone line?


    Do you have the installer code which is different than the user codes of the panel?
    You need the installer code along with the PCA for dealers to program the panel.
    Sometimes it is written inside of the HAI can? Some alarm dealers just keep this code and never give it to the user.

    There is no reset methodologies of the installer code if you do not know it.

    The panel would have to be removed and sent to Leviton for repair or reset of the installer code.

    With the installer code you can utilize a keypad and see the IP and keys this way as per installation document PDF posted above.

    Let's do this first:

    1 - post the IP of your panel here ===>

    2 - ping the IP address of your panel to validate it.

    3 - write down the two keys used for your network access.

    Let me know when you have done this and we can move on to the next steps.

    We will go baby steps here one step at a time.

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  • jnachbar@hotmail.com
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    I have PC Access End User Edition.

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  • Pete
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    The assumption here is that you have the PCA for dealers software and that the panel is connected to an ethernet switch and has been programmed and configured for Ethernet.

    Note to program or make changes to the Omni Pro 2 panel you will need a copy of PCA (PC Access) for dealer version.

    Leviton PC Access Software for Dealers

    You will also need the programming 4 digit code to program or access IP address and key code unless you already have these written down.

    The old Snaplink configuration has the key code configuration.

    Default code is 1111 unless it has been changed.

    The Homeseer 3 Omni Plugin does not program the Omni Pro 2 panel.

    It uses the programming in the firmware of the panel for alarm status and enabling alarm et al.

    I have attached the installation manual for your OmniPro 2 panel.

    Ideally too you will want to upgrade the firmware on your panel to current revision.

    Leviton OmniPro II Security & Automation Upgrade Chip
    Attached Files

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  • Pete
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    Yes; assumption was that you had an old generation Omni Pro 2 panel which did not have an ethernet port.

    You have a second generation OmniPro 2 panel with 3 serial ports plus one X10 port and upgradable firmware chips.

    Just copy the IP and keys over to your Omni Plugin panel configuration as shown above.

    You can see the IP address and keys using a keypad. Ping the IP from the Homeseer 3 box to validate it.

    After putting in the IP and keys disable the plugin. Then enable the plugin and it should connect fine.

    Look at your Homeseer logs and you should see it connect.

    Copy and paste the Homeseer logs here when enabling the plugin.

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  • jnachbar@hotmail.com
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    That is already my setup. Don't understand why I'm not able to connect.

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  • ericg
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    I suspect you may be on the wrong track. I would forget the OmniPro II serial capabilities and just use the Ethernet jack found near the top of your main panel (see diagram). You don't need any converters, just a standard Ethernet cable that you run to an empty slot on your router or Ethernet switch.
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  • Pete
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    Thank you John.

    First OmniPro II panels circa late 1990's did not have an ethernet port.

    The RJ11-12 (uses all 6 pins) is a serial port.

    First Homeseer automation software version 1.X and version 2.X came with an HAI Omni Pro plugin which connected to the Omni panel via a serial port back in the early 2000's.

    The Homeseer 3 Omni Plugin uses the Omni ethernet port to speak to the Omni Panel.

    HAI PC Access management software talks to the Omni panel via ethernet or serial.

    The Homeseer 3 Omni Plugin talks to the Omni panel only via Ethernet port on the panel.

    I have seen newer Omni panels with ethernet ports on Ebay used for reasonable prices. I see a new Omni LTe for around $500 which is a good price.

    Found on Ebay a first generation with ethernet OmniPro 2 starting at ~$ 200.00. It is worth maybe $200.
    These panels last forever. Listing # 13378674410.

    It doesn't come with a power supply or can makes it worth less than $200. (and probably old firmware).

    Make an offer. It is used even though it states condition new.



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  • jnachbar@hotmail.com
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    Just now wondering, is the HomeSeer controller what is supposed to be directly connected to the Omni panel via serial connection?

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  • jnachbar@hotmail.com
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    It's and OmniPro II. The serial connection on the Omnipro panel looks like it takes an rj11 connector, so I assume I need to get a usb to rj11 adapter. Also, as I am now understanding, a computer connected via serial means it needs to be permanently connected for ongoing functioning. Am I correct?

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  • Pete
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    Here is a chart of Omni panel boards and their specifications.

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  • Pete
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    John,

    The Omni Plugin connects via IP only. The Homeseer 2 Omni Pro plugin connected via a serial port on the panel.

    What model number of Omni Panel are you using?

    The Omni Plugin works with any Omni Panel with an ethernet inteface.

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  • jnachbar@hotmail.com
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    Thanks. How do you determine which port the omni panel is using?

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  • Pete
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    Install the Omni Plugin to your HS3 software via the GUI.

    1 - go to the plugins / manage page
    2 - update listing on the bottom
    3 - additional interfaces / security / Omni Plugin - check the box for the Omni Plugin

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    4 - download and install the Omni Plugin -

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    5 - Omni Plugin will be in trial mode and disabled

    6 - enable plugin and configure it.

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    Last edited by Pete; November 17th, 2018, 12:29 PM.

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