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  • MNB
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    Thanxs Michael, thanxs for sharing a picture is worth a thousand words.... I have 9 camera's and like the approach of disabling/enabling them depending on home state. Mike

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  • Rvtravlr
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    I was tired last night and my event picture didn’t post for some reason. Here it is:

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  • MNB
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    Michael, thanxs for the comeback. I'm assuming that your BI event is a manual Event using the "Blue-Iris: Camera Actions" trigger that either "Enable" or "Pause" a selected camera? Mike

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  • Rvtravlr
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    Originally posted by MNB View Post

    Michael, I've had a chance to start looking at other solutions and I was interested in your Blue Iris routine can you share a snapshot of what your "Cameras - BI - Work and Home" event entails to turn BI camera's On/Off? thanxs Mike

    We currently Disable/Enable cameras. The Blue Iris PI author has written that he will implement Hide/Unhide which will allow for recording but they won’t display.

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  • MNB
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    Thanxs Randy, based on my conditions; if I enter any known locations which includes "None" and if doesn't include "Home" then execute speak and write within HS Log (which works when depressing "Run the Event" ">" button) but when I look at my timestamps it seems to not happen when I would have expected.

    Update: I think I know what has happen the "Any" known location includes "None" which stays on for a considerable time like when I leave home until a known location has been reached, so I've added another AND IF condition that the Current location has a value not equal to "None" should then trigger only on the known locations. I told you before I'm a little slow but can learn over time.. Mike

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  • rprade
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    Originally posted by MNB View Post
    Randy, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong I thought I was setting up a simple trigger that if I enter any known location and its not Home then say what known location I'm at and write the same within the HS3 Log but that's not happening, what am I missing?
    I don't know what the problem is by your description. If you are saying the Event never runs, you need to break it down and see if the Trigger or the Condition is the problem. First remove the Condition and see if it speaks and logs the entry into known locations other than "Home". If that works, you would add your condition and see if it then stops. If that is the case, there is either a problem with the overall logic, or PHL is not seeing you enter a known location that is not home.

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  • MNB
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    Randy, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong I thought I was setting up a simple trigger that if I enter any known location and its not Home then say what known location I'm at and write the same within the HS3 Log but that's not happening, what am I missing?
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  • MNB
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    Originally posted by Rvtravlr View Post
    As Randy has so well documented, we use PHL2 for similar events. We also use PHL2 along with the Blue Iris PI to Disable/Enable cameras based on where we are. In the future, when provided by the PI author, we’ll use Hide/Unhide so we can continue to record - it is a feature request being added.


    This event changes our camera displays. We don’t want to look at ourselves when at home.

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    Michael, I've had a chance to start looking at other solutions and I was interested in your Blue Iris routine can you share a snapshot of what your "Cameras - BI - Work and Home" event entails to turn BI camera's On/Off? thanxs Mike

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  • rprade
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    Originally posted by MNB View Post
    Randy, whilst learning the pro's/con's of each PHL2 device I'm coming to the realization that to get rapid position status that one has to be aware of which devices have time built within them such as PHL Direction (5 minutes) and that all one really needs is; Current Location (known locations), Lat/Log for Maps, Geo fences and iBeacons the rest of the devices are nice to have but aren't necessary unless you have a unique use for them whilst looking at your previous posted examples you use the KISS principle and seem to also use the above devices as your core with a few extras e.g. garage door states ect..
    If you want to have the garage door open upon arrival, the iBeacon is necessary to detect that you are in/on a particular vehicle. If you don't want that feature, you don't need iBeacons.

    The only use I have for direction of travel is for much longer time periods. For example, if we are both in a car (iBeacon) and 50 miles from home and the direction of travel is toward home for 20 miles, the house can anticipate we are heading home and put lighting and energy to normal,fire up heating, hot water, etc. Conversely if we are both leaving home with a distance greater than 50 miles, the system can anticipate that we are going to be away for a while and set the heating back, set lighting to occupancy simulation, reduce energy and stop the water heater. Even at that, the mileage is more important than direction of travel, but the direction of travel combined with mileage is a little more telling.

    For almost everything else related to automation, we use fences, because they are fast.

    We also create "where in the world are mom and dad" maps for our daughter extended family with PHL for fun and anyone in the family can email a request for location (using a special code in the subject) which will generate a response with an attached map.

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  • MNB
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    Randy, whilst learning the pro's/con's of each PHL2 device I'm coming to the realization that to get rapid position status that one has to be aware of which devices have time built within them such as PHL Direction (5 minutes) and that all one really needs is; Current Location (known locations), Lat/Log for Maps, Geo fences and iBeacons the rest of the devices are nice to have but aren't necessary unless you have a unique use for them whilst looking at your previous posted examples you use the KISS principle and seem to also use the above devices as your core with a few extras e.g. garage door states ect..

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  • rprade
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    Originally posted by MNB View Post
    Randy question in regards to Maps.. now that PHL2 is placing the various Maps into the prescribed directories, how are you using them and more importantly are you using any scripts or apps to make them SHMBO proof? I've noticed that the HS3 beta app seemed to be quite of late (not sure why) so are you using Imperihome or something else? Mike
    I provide maps to family on private websites. My family can access the private pages on my primary domain. I do not publish them on my website.

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  • MNB
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    Randy question in regards to Maps.. now that PHL2 is placing the various Maps into the prescribed directories, how are you using them and more importantly are you using any scripts or apps to make them SHMBO proof? I've noticed that the HS3 beta app seemed to be quite of late (not sure why) so are you using Imperihome or something else? Mike

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  • MNB
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    Again thanxs Randy, I know I'm asking a lot of questions but I find your explanation very helpful in understanding PHL, GeoFency and Mapping and how to develop functional events. I hope that some of my questions are helpful for those out there trying to adopt the PI for their unique situations and uses through the examples provided. I like your proverb it suits the situation well, Mike

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  • rprade
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    Originally posted by MNB View Post
    Randy question.. you indicate that you have a 100 meter ring and a 1700 meter outer ring, I take it that "Location Randy GF Home" is your 100 meter ring and not sure what the Outer ring is named or what its used for since it's not in any of your above events. Is there any reason why you wouldn't use your iCloud device e.g. "iCloud Device SL Dist to Home" as a home GF? Mike
    I didn't post every Event or fence I use, I like the speed of GeoFency as opposed to iCloud updates. I use iCloud fences for redundancy. The outer ring is also for redundancy in certain critical Events.

    On the topic of iCloud, the SL distance to home is essentially the same as Location Enter and Location Exit in PHL Triggers or User at Location and User Not at Location Conditions. Using the PHL Triggers and Conditions are based upon the Known location radiuses (radii?) and are quite effective. You can certainly use the SL distance if you desire. I do look at SL distance over time as a predictor as to approaching or leaving home and Paul has added a new "Direction" child device to aid in prediction. It is up to you as to how you want your system to operate, and how much you want to count on guessing. According to a Danish proverb "It’s Difficult to Make Predictions, Especially About the Future".

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  • MNB
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    Originally posted by rprade View Post
    I use a 100 meter ring and a 1700 meter outer ring and both of them are predictable and reliable.

    Randy question.. you indicate that you have a 100 meter ring and a 1700 meter outer ring, I take it that "Location Randy GF Home" is your 100 meter ring and not sure what the Outer ring is named or what its used for since it's not in any of your above events. Is there any reason why you wouldn't use your iCloud device e.g. "iCloud Device SL Dist to Home" as a home GF? Mike

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