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  • Fan status when on heating mode

    I've noticed that the fan status doesn't update to On when the HVAC status is on Heat. This is on an 8840 thermostat.

  • #2
    Is there anything you need from me to troubleshoot?

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    • #3
      Can you post some debug logs please

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      • #4
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        Dec-04 8:03:05 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Thermostat Mode and Setpoints Event received
        Dec-04 8:03:05 PM Aprilaire DEBUG RX:01 80 00 07 05 02 01 02 02 56 56 D6
        Dec-04 8:03:05 PM Aprilaire DEBUG RX:01 80 00 0D 05 03 04 02 02 56 56 00 00 00 00 00 00 1E
        Dec-04 8:03:05 PM Aprilaire DEBUG TX:01 05 00 07 01 02 02 01 02 02 02 FF
        Dec-04 8:03:05 PM Device Control Device: Aprilaire Heat Setpoint to + (1001) by/from: CAPI Control Handler
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Thermostat Mode and Setpoints Event received
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG RX:01 80 00 07 05 02 01 02 02 16 56 5F
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG RX:01 80 00 0D 05 03 04 02 02 16 56 00 00 00 00 00 00 7F
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG TX:01 04 00 07 01 02 02 01 02 02 02 FF
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Device Control Device: Aprilaire Heat Setpoint to + (1001) by/from: CAPI Control Handler
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Thermostat Status Event received
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG RX:01 80 00 07 05 07 06 02 00 00 00 5E 01 80 00 07 05 07 07 00 00 02 02 31
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Thermostat Mode and Setpoints Event received
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG RX:01 80 00 07 05 02 01 02 02 55 56 FB
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG RX:01 80 00 0D 05 03 04 02 02 55 56 00 00 00 00 00 00 C5
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG TX:01 03 00 07 01 02 02 01 02 02 02 FF
        Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Device Control Device: Aprilaire Heat Setpoint to + (1001) by/from: CAPI Control Handler
        Dec-04 8:02:54 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Thermostat Status Event received
        Dec-04 8:02:53 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Controlling Sensor Values Event received
        Dec-04 8:02:53 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Thermostat IAQ Avaialble Event received
        Dec-04 8:02:53 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Air Cleaning setting Event received
        Dec-04 8:02:53 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Fresh Air setting Event received
        Dec-04 8:02:53 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Humidification Setpoint Event received
        Dec-04 8:02:53 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Dehumidification Setpoint Event received
        Dec-04 8:02:53 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Thermostat Mode and Setpoints Event received
        Dec-04 8:02:53 PM Aprilaire DEBUG RX:01 80 00 2F 05 01 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 01 00 04 05 00 01 00 01 00 00 05 02 02 04 01 08 00 00 00 01 02 03 01 3D 51 00 0C 01 01 01 00 00 00 0D 0D 00 F4 01 80 00 E3 05 01 02 44 61 6E 20 57 65 62 65 72 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 33 32 30 32 32 34 36 32 37 33 00 64 61 6E 77 65 62 65 72 31 40 6D 73 6E 2E 63 6F 6D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F0 01 80 00 06 05 01 05 01 01 06 13 01 80 00 12 05 01 06 01 01 00 00 02 03 0A 01 02 01 01 0D 02 00 05 41 01 80 00 15 05 01 07 01 01 01 00 26 01 FF 01 06 01 02 03 04 20 14 00 26 0C 3F 01 80 00 07 05 02 01 02 02 15 56 72 01 80 00 04 05 02 03 37 8C 01 80 00 04 05 02 04 04 B4 01 80 00 05 05 02 05 01 00 1D 01 80 00 05 05 02 06 02 00 FA 01 80 00 08 05 02 07 03 01 01 01 01 E6 01 80 00 04 05 03 01 00 41 01 80 00 06 05 03 02 02 02 05 A2 01 80 00 18 05 03 03 00 00 06 02 15 59 00 08 02 50 5D 00 11 02 15 59 00 16 02 50 5B 60 01 80 00 18 05 03 03 01 00 06 02 15 59 00 08 02 50 5D 00 11 02 15 59 00 16 02 50 5B F7 01 80 00 18 05 03 03 02 00 06 02 15 59 00 08 02 50 5D 00 11 02 15 59 00 16 02 50 5B 7F 01 80 00 18 05 03 03 03 00 06 02 15 59 00 08 02 50 5D 00 11 02 15 59 00 16 02 50 5B E8 01 80 00 18 05 03 03 04 00 06 02 15 59 00 08 02 50 5D 00 11 02 15 59 00 16 02 50 5B 5E 01 80 00 18 05 03 03 05 00 06 02 15 59 00 08 02 50 5D 00 11 02 15 59 00 16 02 50 5B C9 01 80 00 18 05 03 03 06 00 06 02 15 59 00 08 02 50 5D 00 11 02 15 59 00 16 02 50 5B 41 01 80 00 0D 05 03 04 02 02 15 56 00 00 00 00 00 00 A4 01 80 00 04 05 03 05 00 C2 01 80 00 0D 05 04 01 00 00 00 00 00 03 06 00 00 03 91 01 80 00 10 05 04 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 46 01 80 00 18 05 04 03 01 14 01 0D 01 41 01 1E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 24 01 80 00 05 05 0A 01 00 08 65 01 80 00 1B 05 08 04 35 35 30 36 33 00 00 00 41 70 72 69 6C 61 69 72 65 5F 38 38 34 30 00 00 46 01 80 00 13 05 05 01 00 54 04 92 00 C5 00 2D 04 92 04 92 03 92 03 00 42 01 80 00 0B 05 05 02 00 54 00 C5 00 2D 03 00 4A 01 80 00 03 05 05 04 45 01 80 00 07 05 07 06 00 00 00 00 59 01 80 00 07 05 07 07 00 00 00 00 8A 01 80 00 0A 05 08 01 44 02 0A 02 07 04 06 6C 01 80 00 0B 05 05 03 01 03 02 92 03 02 29 00 B4 01 80 00 0B 05 05 03 02 03 02 92 03 02 29 00 6F 01 80 00 0B 05 05 03 03 03 02 92 03 02 29 00 26 01 80 00 0B 05 05 03 04 03 02 92 03 02 29 00 E8 01 80 00 0B 05 06 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8B 01 80 00 04 05 07 08 00 AB 01 80 00 04 05 07 02 01 74
        Dec-04 8:02:53 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Thermostat IAQ Avaialble Event received

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        • #5
          Is that what you're looking for?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dweber85rc View Post
            Is that what you're looking for?
            yes this is what I'm looking for, the following lines tell me that the HVAC status is "Heating", and fan is Off. Can you confirm that at this time the fan was On?
            It is also telling me that fresh air ventilation and air cleaning are On but those are different from fan and they don't really have devices to represent them.
            Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG Thermostat Status Event received
            Dec-04 8:03:04 PM Aprilaire DEBUG RX:01 80 00 07 05 07 06 02 00 00 00 5E 01 80 00 07 05 07 07 00 00 02 02 31

            you said the " fan status doesn't update to On when the HVAC status is on Heat". Does it work as expected when HVAC status is Idle?

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            • #7
              Yes at that time the fan was indeed on. The ventilation and air ventilation were also on. Don't know if those can be devices that show status as well but that would be nice too. I have the ventilation and air cleaning run at certain intervals each hour and those require the HVAC fan to run also and when those run the fan status does update accordingly.

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              • #8
                Any updates on this? Thanks!

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                • #9
                  The message sent by the thermostat clearly says the fan is off, so this looks like a bug on Aprilaire side, I will report it to them and see what they say.

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                  • #10
                    Is this gas heating? Typically, with gas heat the thermostat does not turn the fan on. Instead, the controller in the furnace turns the fan on and the thermostat has no way to know if the fan is on or not. Just a thought...

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                    • #11
                      In this instance it is not gas. But yes that is how it normally works. I forgot what the actual setting is on the apriliare side but basically it is set for the thermostat to control the fan because my primary heat on
                      the furnace is not gas. Gas is secondary.

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                      • #12
                        Aprilaire said we have to always assume fan is On if the HVAC status is "Heating" or "Cooling"
                        I made changes accordingly in version 3.0.0.5 of the plugin, available in the Beta section of the updater

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                        • #13
                          Thank you! Just installed it and it correctly updated the fan status when on heating mode.

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