IF any device in the group changes AND IF any device is "On" THEN...

[SeattleDavid]

I am new to EasyTrigger and am having troubles finding the correct test, and would appreciate help.

I have created a Group called "Hydronic Zones". The devices in the group are very simple On/Off ZWave devices. They have only one device entry, and it is a value that is On or Off.

I am having troubles finding the correct test which would be:

If any device in the group changes AND IF any device is On THEN...

The closest tests to this that I can find test the "Value" which is forced to be a number. But the device isn't a number. it is On or Off.

This is probably something simple. But I am not finding it.

Suggestions?

[randy]

You need to find the numeric value for On. Look at the Status Graphics tab for the device. Then you would use that value as I posted in the last post in your other thread.

Mine are open (On) at 0 and closed (Off) at 1.

[SeattleDavid]

Ah, yes, that nuance. I am new to HS3 and I am used to other Event triggers being able to use ON and Off, and so I didn't expect it to be a numerical value. The wording nuances take a bit of getting used to.

I notice that in EasyTrigger there is a nuance in the wording between some conditions. I am assuming that this is significant, but I don't yet perceive the distinction:

• Any device's value in this group changes and becomes...
• Any device's value in this group had its value set and is not equal to...

These do not seem to be a pure "IS" and "IS NOT" situation because the first statement uses "changes" and the second statement uses "had its value set".

But what is the difference between "changes" and "had its value set"?

[randy]

A device that is already On can be “set” to On. Changes and becomes means the value must be changed. All devices in HomeSeer are value based, meaning their actual state is numerical. To make it easier for users, values are generally assigned a “status”. A device might have a Status assigned to values, for example On on a virtual device is 100 and Off is 0. The number is all that HomeSeer looks at. If you look at the Status Graphics tab, you can see what words are assigned to values. HomeSeer doesn’t pay attention to the words, so you can change On to “engaged”, but the actual value will remain as 100. The value on every homeseer device is a double so it can cover a wide range. The value for a thermostat can be 70 or a value for a longitude can have many digits resolution after the decimal.