Help with Event with motion sensors

[pcgirl65]

In rereading your event, I see one other change that could help. In the delayed event, instead of the condition that all devices in the group have a value of zero, it would be preferable, I think, to have them be in the range [0,0] for at least 3 minutes. That would prevent the lights from going out as long as there is some detected motion at least every 3 minutes, even if the TV is turned off. (I assume that with the current event, if the TV is on, the lights do not turn off.)

Actually, this is how I decided to try it. Is this correct?



I suppose I could also take the TV Plug condition out of both and then do another event where TV Plug is >10 then Disable the Lights On and Lights Off events?

In rereading your event, I see one other change that could help. In the delayed event, instead of the condition that all devices in the group have a value of zero, it would be preferable, I think, to have them be in the range [0,0] for at least 3 minutes. That would prevent the lights from going out as long as there is some detected motion at least every 3 minutes, even if the TV is turned off. (I assume that with the current event, if the TV is on, the lights do not turn off.)

i do this too

[randy]

In rereading your event, I see one other change that could help. In the delayed event, instead of the condition that all devices in the group have a value of zero, it would be preferable, I think, to have them be in the range [0,0] for at least 3 minutes. That would prevent the lights from going out as long as there is some detected motion at least every 3 minutes, even if the TV is turned off. (I assume that with the current event, if the TV is on, the lights do not turn off.)

That is another good solution.

[Uncle Michael]

In rereading your event, I see one other change that could help. In the delayed event, instead of the condition that all devices in the group have a value of zero, it would be preferable, I think, to have them be in the range [0,0] for at least 3 minutes. That would prevent the lights from going out as long as there is some detected motion at least every 3 minutes, even if the TV is turned off. (I assume that with the current event, if the TV is on, the lights do not turn off.)

[randy]

If you cancel the delayed device action in the On event it will work.

The Off event runs with all motion sensors at 0 setting up a delayed device action.
When the On Event runs it will cancel the delayed device action.
When the sensors are all 0 again a new delayed device action is created
This will continue until there has been no motion in any sensor for more than 3 minutes.
If your TV is on neither event runs. If you turn the TV on while any of the sensors are at 255, the lights will not turn off. If you turn the TV on while there is no motion and within the 3 minutes, the delayed action will turn the lights off and the On event will not run.

[pcgirl65]

But for the events as you have them now, I think you need to add an action to your Basement Lights Off event to Remove Delayed Device Actions for JowiHue Basement. It should be the first action of the Off event, before the action to turn them off after 3 minutes.

If I were to add a Cancel Delayed Action before the Action of turning the lights off does it work because the rule is flowing down? I don't see how this would work? It would cancel the event of turning the lights off after 3 minutes. Doesn't it work that when all the Conditions are TRUE then the Events start? If the Conditions are FALSE then nothing happens?

[pcgirl65]

Just curious! In the Off event you have "less than 10 watts" and it is the same as the On event. Should the Off event be "greater than 10 watts"?

That is for the TV plug. So if the TV is on then the lights ON doesn't need to run because we might have the lights set to a different scene. Also if the TV is on, I don't want the lights to turn off.

[Uncle Michael]

How do I do a delayed event?

Select 'Run Another Event' as the event action and enter a delay time.

[cowinger]

Just curious! In the Off event you have "less than 10 watts" and it is the same as the On event. Should the Off event be "greater than 10 watts"?

[pcgirl65]

Instead of using a delayed device action, you could try a delayed event, where the event has the same conditions as the off event. (Be sure to include the requirement that the other event conditions are true.)

How do I do a delayed event?

[teladog01]

There are a few different ways to accomplish this type of motion controlled lighting, and I believe there is a detailed tutorial in the Event Clinic on the different methods.

But for the events as you have them now, I think you need to add an action to your Basement Lights Off event to Remove Delayed Device Actions for JowiHue Basement. It should be the first action of the Off event, before the action to turn them off after 3 minutes.

[Uncle Michael]

It appears that you could have motion in the 3 minute delay before the off command is sent, but your event will ignore it. Instead of using a delayed device action, you could try a delayed event, where the event has the same conditions as the off event. (Be sure to include the requirement that the other event conditions are true.)
You should also have your ON event cancel delayed device actions or events related to your lights.

[pcgirl65]

I am trying to do an event that uses 3 motion sensors in a Group. I have created an Event to turn on a set of Hue lights in the Basement when ANY of the motion sensors detect motion. This seems to work. However, I am having trouble with the Event to turn the lights OFF after there is no motion from ALL motion sensors for 3 minutes. This is the Event that I have setup but for some reason it is turning the light off while there is still motion being detected. Can anybody help with this?