Problems with V6 Device

[skimis]

Just got two new 6-button KPLs. One of them is a new V6.0; 1213; Firmware V41 (I2CS Device). Had a lot of trouble getting it recongnized... adding by address didn't work. Used Tap-Add and after a few tries and device resets finally got it. I can change some settings (ramp rate), but trying to program Op flags or Button Modes, or to program the device to operate with HomeSeer doesn't work. Can't program any links, but I can create a link at the device (the hard way). Comm Reliability reports at 95% (34 fail of 708). Any ideas on this? Thanks!

[mnsandler]

What do the results of a Test Communcations look like?

what version of the plugin are you on? v1.7+ is required for i2cs devices

otherwise i think there is powerlike noise

[skimis]

I'm running V1.7.3.1
Comm test is perfect: 5% 1hop, 95% 2 hops.
But can't program for Homeseer, can't read link tables, can't program any links. After multiple attempts I did finally get it to program an Op flag.
Is this new protocol more susecptible to interferrence? This KPL is in the same gang box as two other KPLs (older versions) and they work perfectly.

[mnsandler]

as a test, can you move the new kpl somewhere else and test?

You can use an old cut extension cord and just wire nut the hot and neutral to the switch (cap the red) and then you can plug the switch in anywhere and retest the programming.

the new i2sc protocol is to improve message integrity with checksums. interference does not affect it any more or less than older switches.

my last resort would be to do another hw reset on the device, then try the program for homeseer button. you don't need to delete it from the plugin for this.

[claude]

Skimis,

Not saying your situation is the same, but thought I would point you to my experience with my first i2CS device [http://board.homeseer.com/showpost.p...78&postcount=6]

As with your experience, every other device on that same circuit was communicating fine with my PLM.

The current KPL documentation has no mention of it being dual band so RF can't help bypass the electrical noise (if that's your issue).

You mentioned seing a good COM test: when trying to read links off the KPL, what message(s) did you get back? Did you get a failure after 5 attempts? If so, on the very first link?

[skimis]

I decided to try the reset route again. So, first in the plugin I deleted the device. Then I did the factory reset. Then did manual add (note this never worked before, but this time it did!). I included the links it created here for reference. Then, I attempted to program the four buttons as Radio Group 1. The log entries from that are included below - it failed. Communications test says 95%. But the device stats say 54%. Simple ping seems to work but not the programming commands. This device is in the same box, on the same circuit, with two other KPLs (they are I2, not I2CS). They work great. If you conclude this is a communication issue then the I2CS seems worse than the previous generation and I guess I can swap it with another I2 device I have, doing 6/8 button swaps and reprogramming them both. Ugh.

Device Link Table

Link #3 Button A has local control reporting to HomeSeer
Link #4 Button B has local control reporting to HomeSeer
Link #5 Button C has local control reporting to HomeSeer
Link #6 Button D has local control reporting to HomeSeer
Link #7 Button Off has local control reporting to HomeSeer
Link #2 Button On/Load has local control reporting to HomeSeer
Link #10 Button A is controlled by HomeSeer using RF PLM Group #28 (Button Control Group) - Command: On
Link #11 Button B is controlled by HomeSeer using RF PLM Group #29 (Button Control Group) - Command: On
Link #12 Button C is controlled by HomeSeer using RF PLM Group #30 (Button Control Group) - Command: On
Link #13 Button D is controlled by HomeSeer using RF PLM Group #31 (Button Control Group) - Command: On
Link #1 Button On/Load is controlled by HomeSeer using RF PLM Group #0 (i2CS Registration Link) - On Level 0%, Ramp Rate .5 Sec.
Link #8 Button On/Load is controlled by HomeSeer using RF PLM Group #254 (HomeSeer All Devices Group) - On Level 100%, Ramp Rate .1 Sec.
Link #9 Button On/Load is controlled by HomeSeer using RF PLM Group #27 (Button Control Group) - On Level 100%, Ramp Rate .1 Sec.


11/4/2012 10:54:56 AM Insteon Edit Insteon Device #51 Addr: 1D.F8.CE, Name:KPL Center, Location:Gameroom
11/4/2012 10:55:01 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:01 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:01 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:01 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:01 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:01 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:07 AM Insteon Program Button Groups selected
11/4/2012 10:55:07 AM Insteon Launching new BackgroundUpdate Thread with job type 28...
11/4/2012 10:55:07 AM Insteon In BackgroundUpdate Thread...
11/4/2012 10:55:07 AM Insteon Programming Button A
11/4/2012 10:55:07 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 02 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 95 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:07 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 02 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 95 06
11/4/2012 10:55:10 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #1 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:10 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 02 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 95 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:11 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 02 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 95 06
11/4/2012 10:55:12 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D F8 CE 14 84 E7 23 2E 00
11/4/2012 10:55:12 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 03 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 94 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:12 AM Insteon Received message from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE) taking hops: 3
11/4/2012 10:55:12 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 03 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 94 06
11/4/2012 10:55:16 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #1 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:16 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 03 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 94 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:16 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 03 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 94 06
11/4/2012 10:55:17 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:17 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:17 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:17 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:17 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:17 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:19 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #2 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:19 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 03 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 94 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:19 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 03 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 94 06
11/4/2012 10:55:23 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #3 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:23 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D1 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:23 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D1 06
11/4/2012 10:55:26 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #1 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:26 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D1 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:26 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D1 06
11/4/2012 10:55:30 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #2 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:30 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D1 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:30 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D1 06
11/4/2012 10:55:32 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:32 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:32 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:32 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:32 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:32 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:33 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #3 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:33 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CF to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:33 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CF 06
11/4/2012 10:55:34 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):21 C6 15 00 00 01 C7 11 01
11/4/2012 10:55:34 AM Insteon Received message from Kitchen Motion (21.C6.15) taking hops: 2
11/4/2012 10:55:34 AM Insteon Received ]95 (Kitchen Motion - Occupancy Sensor) Go ON
11/4/2012 10:55:34 AM Event Event Trigger "Kitchen Motion On 2"
11/4/2012 10:55:34 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcast: Device Kitchen Motion (21.C6.15) is group broadcast source (tgt group/button:1) sending cmd 11
11/4/2012 10:55:34 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device ]95. Old status:3 Old Value:0, New Status:2 New Value:100
11/4/2012 10:55:34 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):21 C6 15 00 01 01 CB 11 01
11/4/2012 10:55:34 AM Insteon Received message from Kitchen Motion (21.C6.15) taking hops: 1
11/4/2012 10:55:34 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):21 C6 15 11 00 01 C7 06 00
11/4/2012 10:55:34 AM Insteon Received message from Kitchen Motion (21.C6.15) taking hops: 2
11/4/2012 10:55:34 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):21 C6 15 11 00 01 CB 06 00 Debouncing repeat.
11/4/2012 10:55:37 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #1 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:37 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CF to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:37 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CF 06
11/4/2012 10:55:40 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #2 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:40 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CF to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:40 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CF 06
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):21 C6 15 00 00 01 CB 11 01
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon Received message from Kitchen Motion (21.C6.15) taking hops: 1
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon Received ]95 (Kitchen Motion - Occupancy Sensor) Go ON
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Event Event Trigger "Kitchen Motion On 2"
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcast: Device Kitchen Motion (21.C6.15) is group broadcast source (tgt group/button:1) sending cmd 11
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device ]95. Old status:2 Old Value:100, New Status:2 New Value:100
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):21 C6 15 00 01 01 CB 11 01
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon Received message from Kitchen Motion (21.C6.15) taking hops: 1
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #3 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CE to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):21 C6 15 11 00 01 CB 06 00
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon Received message from Kitchen Motion (21.C6.15) taking hops: 1
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon ..Got NAK from the RF PLM for command
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon ..Retry #1 required. Pausing 250ms for RF PLM to clear...
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):21 C6 15 11 00 01 CB 06 00 Debouncing repeat.
11/4/2012 10:55:44 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CE 06
11/4/2012 10:55:47 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:47 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:47 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:47 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:47 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:55:47 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:55:48 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #1 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:48 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CE to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:48 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CE 06
11/4/2012 10:55:51 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #2 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:51 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CE to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:52 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CE 06
11/4/2012 10:55:55 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #3 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:55 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CD to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:55 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CD 06
11/4/2012 10:55:59 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #1 failed.
11/4/2012 10:55:59 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CD to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:55:59 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CD 06
11/4/2012 10:56:02 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:56:02 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:56:02 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:56:02 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:56:02 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:56:02 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:56:02 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #2 failed.
11/4/2012 10:56:02 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CD to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:56:02 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CD 06
11/4/2012 10:56:03 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D F8 CE 14 84 E7 27 2E 00
11/4/2012 10:56:03 AM Insteon Received message from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE) taking hops: 2
11/4/2012 10:56:03 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D F8 CE 14 84 E7 23 2E 00 Debouncing repeat.
11/4/2012 10:56:03 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):14 2C 77 14 84 E7 46 11 01
11/4/2012 10:56:04 AM Insteon Received STX 0x51 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D F8 CE 14 84 E7 17 2E 00 05 01 00 00 20 20 00 00 3F 00 03 00 00 00
11/4/2012 10:56:04 AM Insteon Received message from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE) taking hops: 2
11/4/2012 10:56:04 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:56:04 AM Insteon ..Got NAK from the RF PLM for command
11/4/2012 10:56:04 AM Insteon ..Retry #1 required. Pausing 250ms for RF PLM to clear...
11/4/2012 10:56:04 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC 06
11/4/2012 10:56:08 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #1 failed.
11/4/2012 10:56:08 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:56:08 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC 06
11/4/2012 10:56:11 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #2 failed.
11/4/2012 10:56:11 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:56:11 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC 06
11/4/2012 10:56:14 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):13 E5 1D 00 00 01 C3 11 01
11/4/2012 10:56:14 AM Insteon Received message from Foyer Door Open/Close (13.E5.1D) taking hops: 3
11/4/2012 10:56:14 AM Insteon Received ]46 (Foyer Door Open/Close) Go ON
11/4/2012 10:56:14 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcast: Device Foyer Door Open/Close (13.E5.1D) is group broadcast source (tgt group/button:1) sending cmd 11
11/4/2012 10:56:14 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device ]46. Old status:3 Old Value:0, New Status:2 New Value:100
11/4/2012 10:56:14 AM Event Event Trigger "Front Door Open"
11/4/2012 10:56:14 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):13 E5 1D 00 00 01 C7 11 01 Debouncing repeat.
11/4/2012 10:56:15 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #3 failed.
11/4/2012 10:56:15 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CA to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:56:15 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CA 06
11/4/2012 10:56:17 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:56:17 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:56:17 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:56:17 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:56:17 AM Insteon Starting Scheduled Polling...
11/4/2012 10:56:17 AM Insteon ..Finished Scheduled Polling for 0 devices.
11/4/2012 10:56:19 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #1 failed.
11/4/2012 10:56:19 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CA to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:56:19 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CA 06
11/4/2012 10:56:22 AM Insteon Did not receive a response from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE). Try #2 failed.
11/4/2012 10:56:22 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CA to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
11/4/2012 10:56:22 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1D F8 CE 1F 2E 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CA 06
11/4/2012 10:56:24 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D F8 CE 14 84 E7 27 2E 00
11/4/2012 10:56:24 AM Insteon Received message from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE) taking hops: 2
11/4/2012 10:56:24 AM Insteon Received STX 0x51 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D F8 CE 14 84 E7 11 2E 00 08 01 00 00 20 20 00 00 3F 00 03 00 00 00
11/4/2012 10:56:24 AM Insteon Received message from Gameroom KPL Center (1D.F8.CE) taking hops: 1
11/4/2012 10:56:24 AM Insteon BackgroundUpdate Thread Complete...
11/4/2012 10:56:25 AM Insteon Received STX 0x51 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D F8 CE 14 84 E7 12 2E 00 08 01 00 00 20 20 00 00 3F 00 03 00 00 00 Debouncing repeat.
11/4/2012 10:56:25 AM Insteon Received STX 0x51 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D F8 CE 14 84 E7 17 2E 00 08 01 00 00 20 20 00 00 3F 00 03 00 00 00 Debouncing repeat.
11/4/2012 10:56:26 AM Insteon Received STX 0x51 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D F8 CE 14 84 E7 17 2E 00 08 01 00 00 20 20 00 00 3F 00 03 00 00 00 Debouncing repeat.
11/4/2012 10:56:27 AM Insteon Received STX 0x51 (Raw Insteon Rec):1D F8 CE 14 84 E7 17 2E 00 08 01 00 00 20 20 00 00 3F 00 03 00 00 00 Debouncing repeat.
11/4/2012 10:56:28 AM Insteon Edit Insteon Device #51 Addr: 1D.F8.CE, Name:KPL Center, Location:Gameroom

[claude]

Mark,

Not to jump to conclusions, but is there a chance that i2CS devices are an issue? I keep going back to my experience where older devices worked fine, even in a power line noise situation, while i2CS devices , on the same circuit, failed.

I'd like to ask the Insteon community: if you have i2CS devices, what is your success rate at integrating them into your environment? If you incurred failures, please share the details. Maybe we can figure a pattern out of all of this.

I've got a hunch...

[skimis]

Mark,

Not to jump to conclusions, but is there a chance that i2CS devices are an issue? I keep going back to my experience where older devices worked fine, even in a power line noise situation, while i2CS devices , on the same circuit, failed.

I'd like to ask the Insteon community: if you have i2CS devices, what is your success rate at integrating them into your environment? If you incurred failures, please share the details. Maybe we can figure a pattern out of all of this.

I've got a hunch...

I have a couple of new motion sensors / door contacts that are i2CS and they work just fine... but of course they are RF only. I was an X10 user but you know the issues with that and expanding device numbers, and I2 has bee great. I'm really concerned about purchasing more i2CS devices. Is there a conflict with them and I2 devices? Maybe there's a config that let's me dumb-down the device?

[mnsandler]

Mark,

Not to jump to conclusions, but is there a chance that i2CS devices are an issue? I keep going back to my experience where older devices worked fine, even in a power line noise situation, while i2CS devices , on the same circuit, failed.

I'd like to ask the Insteon community: if you have i2CS devices, what is your success rate at integrating them into your environment? If you incurred failures, please share the details. Maybe we can figure a pattern out of all of this.

I've got a hunch...

claude,
i suggest a poll in this forum. make sure the question you ask will provide the answers/data to answer your question/hunch

[mnsandler]

I have a couple of new motion sensors / door contacts that are i2CS and they work just fine... but of course they are RF only. I was an X10 user but you know the issues with that and expanding device numbers, and I2 has bee great. I'm really concerned about purchasing more i2CS devices. Is there a conflict with them and I2 devices? Maybe there's a config that let's me dumb-down the device?

guys,
i have about 9 i2cs devices and haven't really had any problems with them.

if the the i2cs device didn't receive a msg it liked it would respond as such.

for some reasons the msgs aren't getting through