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    Originally posted by pbibm View Post
    I have 27 devices now, including 3 keypad lincs (which are 8 insteon controllers each) I don't poll everything. Having said that, no problems. Those things I do poll, poll properly.
    Paul,

    Thanks for the feedback. Just to be clear, I was referring to using the 'Poll devices' button on top of the HS status page. Could you give it a shot and tell me how long is the average delay before the next device status shows up (as the polling executes)? Is it every second, 5 seconds...?

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      Claude
      I got through 30 devices in 20 seconds for my kitchen devices. I also tried other rooms with similar results. I wish I would have thought of this as a test to compare to the plm before cutting over....

      Have you tired powering off/on your hub? I know you were doing a lot of experimentation with links, it might have gotten confused in the process

      Paul
      Paul

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        Originally posted by pbibm View Post
        ...I got through 30 devices in 20 seconds for my kitchen devices...
        Can you feel the envie?

        Originally posted by pbibm View Post
        ...Have you tired powering off/on your hub?...
        Good point, yes I did.

        What I really need to do, but don't feel like doing, is going back to my 2413U and making sure it performs as it did before. Maybe it's all power noise after all.

        BTW, here are my hub's credentials:
        Bin version : Alert 2.4 YF
        PLM vesrion : 9B

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          my hub Firmware Version: 4.4A Build Nov 19 2012
          PLM Version: 9B

          i think the plm ver is the important part for my plugin

          i don't think swapping back to the plm is a good idea
          Mark

          HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
          Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
          Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
          Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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            Mark, you got your hub early, did it have the Oct 30th and you upgraded? If so, where does the upgrade file (MPFS) come from?
            Paul

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              Paul,
              I had to send my hub back to SM to get it complete reprogrammed including the plm fw.

              i sent an email to sh about upgrading the hub fw. Haven't heard back yet

              any fw upgrade won't include a plm upgrade that's for sure
              Mark

              HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
              Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
              Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
              Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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                Yep, agreed. I think the base PLM function works well and from my use of it, meets the goal of this thread. The hub can be used with HS like the serial/usb PLMs.

                I'm interested in moving on to doing more things with the hub and looking for those upgrades to do it. One of the thin web pages in the hub supports uploading an MPFS file so I am hoping I am not reading too much in to it.
                Paul

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                  I have to confess I haven't tried the iphone app. Not sure if the hub ui fw supports the apps or how this all works
                  Mark

                  HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
                  Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
                  Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
                  Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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                    Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
                    ...i don't think swapping back to the plm is a good idea...
                    No, I'm sticking with the hub. What I meant was doing a quick trip back to the 2413U to see how it did with polling, then going back to the hub.

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                      Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
                      Paul,
                      I had to send my hub back to SM to get it complete reprogrammed including the plm fw...
                      Given your PLM is currently at 9B as mine is, I assume it was an older version before. Since you had to send your hub back to SH for the PLM upgrade, I also assume it is not field upgradable, which explains your post on this a couple of weeks back.

                      Right now I really don't care about the other parts of the hub except the PLM reachable via TCP. If the PLM turns out to be faulty in some way, I guess we're up the 'early adopter' creek.

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                        Claude,
                        Sometimes this a sign of links/groups being incorrect on the insteon network. When I moved fully to the hub with replace/swap plm, I had to spend some time afterwards going back to each device and revewing/deleting links, making sure groups were deleted from the plm, etc.

                        In the past with the plm, one bad link can cause major performance problems with the insteon network.
                        Paul

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                          Originally posted by pbibm View Post
                          Claude,
                          Sometimes this a sign of links/groups being incorrect on the insteon network. When I moved fully to the hub with replace/swap plm, I had to spend some time afterwards going back to each device and revewing/deleting links, making sure groups were deleted from the plm, etc.

                          In the past with the plm, one bad link can cause major performance problems with the insteon network.
                          As a matter of fact, I left the links to my previous USB PLM, just in case I needed to go back and given the Swap/Replace isn't 100% trustworthy.

                          I'm pretty satisfied with my set up with the hub, so my next step will be to delete references to my USB PLM and do any required clean up.

                          BTW, what most impressed me most with the hub in terms of response time was removing my 2411R IRlinc receiver, which I used extensively in my AV set up. Commands sent to the IRlinc could take 3-5 seconds to take effect; sent to the hub: instantaneous.

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                            Sounds good. I think killing those links will help. You've really drilled in to the hub and I appreciate your research and posts. Thanks
                            Paul

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                              If you are using the Insteon smart phone apps with the new hub, where your hub will be exposed to the internet, its worth reassigning the default hub port to something else. If/when you do this, Mark's plugin needs to be informed of the new port number as well. Here are the steps:
                              1. Pick a new port number between 0 and 65335 that you want to use. For the most part it doesn't matter, however there are some to avoid:
                              • If you have or plan to have an internet TV, internet cable box or other UPNP managed LAN services, here are some to avoid
                              • You only have to avoid the port assignments if you might ever use that service, reusing most listed ports for this purpose only is fine. For example port 27 is NWS..something not used for many years. If its something you don't recognize, its most likely ok

                              2. Use a browser to access your hub on your local lan: http://x.x.x.x:25105/config.htm
                              3. Change the port value to your selected port number under Edit Port, click save
                              4. Unplug, replug the hub and validate the new port number by repeating step 2 with the new port number
                              5. Use this new port number in the PLM plugin for addressing the port internally on your LAN
                              • Shut down and restart HS
                              • Check that the plugin comes up right, no unexpected error messages

                              6. If you already have set up your hub through a cloud account, the smartphone app will be notified and and change its port number automatically.
                              • If you haven't set it up yet, you may have to enter it in the smartphone app. I'm not able to tell since I went down the other path

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                              Paul

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                                Paul, how do you use the hub's app and mark's plugin concurrently? I thought the two work independently. So you do have to add your devices to both? I would think this might be a bit messy when looking at device links.

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