Announcement

**mnsandler** · December 12, 2011, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by mrmohouse View Post

Hi All,

I started using HomeSeer back about 10 years ago but stopped (I think Kids and life happened) and then recently came back so I purchased the latest version. First step was to get it working with the Insteon 2413U USB PLM which I thought would be trivial (considering it is officially supported). Come to find out that it is supported but I need to get support via the forums... so here I am.

So here are the particulars hope you can help me get going!

- Latest version of HomeSeer on Vista (yes Vista, don't want to rebuild the system at this point... should work fine).

- Using the Insteon 2413U USB PLM

- I have the Insteon Plugin enabled under the setup-> Interfaces screen and but giving "Error Initializing" under the plugin status. I checked the com port and that is correct (COM7).

- When I click on the "Disable" for the X10 column for the plugin it just give the red message "Configuration changes have NOT been saved.
Select a different configuration area if you wish to lose your changes, or you may make further changes."

Here is my startup log...
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup -
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - ************************************************************ ********************
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - HomeSeer version 2.5.0.20 Starting Now (Standard Build)
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - ************************************************************ ********************
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup -
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Using system's regional settings
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Creating Class Objects...
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - COM port classes started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Application interface class started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Web server class started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - E-Mail SEND class started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - E-Mail RECEIVE class started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Z-Wave class started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Plug-In Interface class started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Speech recognition class started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - HSPhone dialer class started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Loading Settings
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Settings Loaded.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Current sunrise/sunset values calculated.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - HSPhone external interface class started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Local voice recognition class started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Database SAVE process started.
12/12/2011 8:37:16 AM - Startup - Loading configuration file ...
12/12/2011 8:37:17 AM - System - Loading device types file...
12/12/2011 8:37:17 AM - Database - Opening (Mode=Read) up HomeSeer database: C:\Program Files\HomeSeer HS2\config\sample.mdb
12/12/2011 8:37:17 AM - Database - Loading Devices...
12/12/2011 8:37:17 AM - Load Config - 4 total devices loaded.
12/12/2011 8:37:17 AM - Load Config - Checking device type settings for all devices...
12/12/2011 8:37:17 AM - Load Config - Finished checking device type settings.
12/12/2011 8:37:17 AM - Load Config - Loading Events...
12/12/2011 8:37:18 AM - Load Config - 11 total events loaded.
12/12/2011 8:37:18 AM - Database - HomeSeer configuration database C:\Program Files\HomeSeer HS2\config\sample.mdb has been closed.
12/12/2011 8:37:18 AM - Startup - HomeSeer version is: 2.5.0.20
12/12/2011 8:37:18 AM - Startup - Starting remoting (Remote client connection monitor)
12/12/2011 8:37:18 AM - Startup - Creating Speaker Client Interface Object...
12/12/2011 8:37:18 AM - Startup - Initializing phone interface...
12/12/2011 8:37:18 AM - HSPhone - HomeSeer Phone Web Interface initializing.
12/12/2011 8:37:18 AM - Startup - Checking for pending updates to be installed...
12/12/2011 8:37:19 AM - Startup - Restoring Device Status...
12/12/2011 8:37:19 AM - Startup - Checking for available plug-ins
12/12/2011 8:37:19 AM - Plug-In - Found plug-in: X10 CM11A/CM12U, version: 2.2.0.4
12/12/2011 8:37:19 AM - Plug-In - Found plug-in: X10 CM15AUSB, version: 1.0.0.3
12/12/2011 8:37:20 AM - Plug-In - Found plug-in: HSTouch Server, version: 1.0.0.42
12/12/2011 8:37:20 AM - Plug-In - Found plug-in: HSTouch Android, version: 1.0.0.0
12/12/2011 8:37:20 AM - Plug-In - Found plug-in: HSTouch iPhone, version: 1.0.0.0
12/12/2011 8:37:20 AM - Plug-In - Found plug-in: Insteon, version: 1.1.52.1
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Startup - Initializing Plug-Ins
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Plug-In - Interface HSTouch iPhone is running as a trial, 18 days remaining.
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - HSTouch iPhone - Register callback completed
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Plug-In - Initializing Plug-in: HSTouch iPhone
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - HSTouch iPhone - HSTouch iPhone plugin initialized.
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Plug-In - Finished initializing plug-in HSTouch iPhone
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Plug-In - Interface HSTouch Server is running as a trial, 18 days remaining.
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - HSTouch Server - Register callback completed
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Plug-In - Initializing Plug-in: HSTouch Server
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - HSTouch Server - Registered for STATUS CHANGE callback.
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - HSTouch Server - Registered for STRING CHANGE callback.
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - HSTouch Server - Registered for CONFIG CHANGE callback.
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - HSTouch Server - Registered for CALLER-ID callback.
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - HSTouch Server - Registered for VALUE CHANGE callback.
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - HSTouch Server - Registered for GENERIC EVENT callback.
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Plug-In - Finished initializing plug-in HSTouch Server
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Insteon - Host System: HomeSeer 2.5.0.20
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Insteon - Plugin: HSPI_Insteon.DLL - HYBRID PLC VERSION 1.1.52.1 In PLC/SDM Mode
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Insteon - RegisterCallback Completed
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Plug-In - Initializing Plug-in: Insteon on COM port 7
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Insteon - Enter InitIO
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Insteon - Enter InitPlugin
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Insteon - Global initialization of plug-in required, starting up.
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Insteon - Initializing Insteon hardware interface...
12/12/2011 8:37:21 AM - Insteon - Connecting to SmartHome Device Manager (SDM) component...
12/12/2011 8:37:23 AM - Insteon - Connected to SDM component, Checking Insteon interface connection...
12/12/2011 8:37:46 AM - Insteon - IsResponding returned: ''
12/12/2011 8:37:46 AM - Insteon - The SDM did not find your Insteon interface, now scanning COM and USB ports for the interface...
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Insteon - IsResponding returned: 'isresponding=False'
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Insteon - ** An error occurred in this plug-in. The details have been written to the log file - C:\Program Files\HomeSeer HS2\Config\Insteon Error Report.Log
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Insteon - ** To request help with this problem please email the log file along with a detailed description of what
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Insteon - ** lead to this problem to technical support.
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Insteon - Exit InitPlugin
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Insteon - Exit InitIO
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Error - Initializing interface: Insteon->System.Exception: The SDM can not find or connect to your Insteon interface, check the connections to the PLC and try again. at HSPI_INSTEON.HSPI.SDM_Interface_Initialize() at HSPI_INSTEON.HSPI.InitPlugin(Int32 Mode)
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Plug-In - Finished initializing plug-in Insteon
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Plug-In - Initializing X10 Plug-in: X10 CM15AU On COM Port 1
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Error - Unable to initialize X-10 interface X10 CM15AU :Either no license or trial has expired
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Plug-In - Finished initializing X10 interface X10 CM15AU
12/12/2011 8:38:55 AM - Plug-In - Finished initializing infrared interface
12/12/2011 8:38:56 AM - Web Server - Local IP address (subnet) is: 192.168.2.33 (255.255.255.0)
12/12/2011 8:38:56 AM - Web Server - Web Server started on port 8099
12/12/2011 8:38:56 AM - Web Server - UPNP Discovery started
12/12/2011 8:38:56 AM - Startup - Creating ASP.NET application host...
12/12/2011 8:38:58 AM - Startup - ASP.NET application host created
12/12/2011 8:38:58 AM - Startup - Start automation engine...
12/12/2011 8:38:58 AM - Startup - This version of HomeSeer is registered.
12/12/2011 8:38:58 AM - Startup - Initializing Speaker Client Interface
12/12/2011 8:38:58 AM - Speech - Listening for remote speaker connections on port 8742
12/12/2011 8:38:58 AM - Startup - Starting Event Scheduler...
12/12/2011 8:38:58 AM - Startup - Checking HTTP connection...
12/12/2011 8:38:58 AM - Web Server - Web Server authorized local login successful from: 127.0.0.1 User: default
12/12/2011 8:38:59 AM - Startup - Updater services starting...
12/12/2011 8:38:59 AM - Startup - Starting DDNS service...
12/12/2011 8:38:59 AM - Startup - Running the Startup.txt Script
12/12/2011 8:38:59 AM - HSTouch Server - HomeSeer has started
12/12/2011 8:38:59 AM - HSTouch Server - Server is limited to 5 connections. Unlimited connections plug-in is not installed.
12/12/2011 8:38:59 AM - HSTouch Server - Server is enabled for iPhone/iPod HSTouch connections.
12/12/2011 8:38:59 AM - HSTouch Server - Server started on port 10200
12/12/2011 8:38:59 AM - Startup - Scripting is OK and is now running Startup.txt
12/12/2011 8:38:59 AM - Startup - Start up complete.
12/12/2011 8:39:08 AM - Network - Speaker client connected from: 127.0.0.1
12/12/2011 8:39:08 AM - Warning - Speaker client at 127.0.0.1 (Mo_NetBook) was connected because no password is required for the local subnet, but the password, user ID (default), or access rights are NOT valid for a remote network login.
12/12/2011 8:39:08 AM - Warning - Event Media Player Media Player Genre VR has an empty voice recognition phrase (), this phrase is being ignored. Either disable this event for voice recognition or edit the recognition phrase. If using a music plugin, your music library may be empty.
12/12/2011 8:39:08 AM - Warning - Event Media Player Media Player Artist VR has an empty voice recognition phrase (), this phrase is being ignored. Either disable this event for voice recognition or edit the recognition phrase. If using a music plugin, your music library may be empty.
12/12/2011 8:39:08 AM - Warning - Event Media Player Media Player Album VR has an empty voice recognition phrase (), this phrase is being ignored. Either disable this event for voice recognition or edit the recognition phrase. If using a music plugin, your music library may be empty.
12/12/2011 8:39:09 AM - Speaker - Speaker host added, Name: Mo_NetBook IP address: 127.0.0.1
12/12/2011 8:39:09 AM - Warning - Event Media Player Media Player Genre VR has an empty voice recognition phrase (), this phrase is being ignored. Either disable this event for voice recognition or edit the recognition phrase. If using a music plugin, your music library may be empty.
12/12/2011 8:39:09 AM - Warning - Event Media Player Media Player Artist VR has an empty voice recognition phrase (), this phrase is being ignored. Either disable this event for voice recognition or edit the recognition phrase. If using a music plugin, your music library may be empty.
12/12/2011 8:39:09 AM - Warning - Event Media Player Media Player Album VR has an empty voice recognition phrase (), this phrase is being ignored. Either disable this event for voice recognition or edit the recognition phrase. If using a music plugin, your music library may be empty.
12/12/2011 8:39:10 AM - Web Server - Web Server authorized local login successful from: 192.168.2.33 User: default
12/12/2011 8:39:52 AM - Insteon - Device Manager Report: dm=active,1.01.138.308,12/12/2011 8:39:38 am,responded,,0.0,xdevices=true

you have the wrong plugin loaded for the PLM. you need the PLM version from the updater. I would suggest v1.4.2 at a minimum (the late free version)

**mrmohouse** · December 12, 2011, 10:27 PM

Thanks for the response Mark, I think I am moving in the right direction. I installed the 1.4.2 version plugin and it now has a status of "Interface OK".

Still can't control anything and I check where I am plugging in the PLM which is x10 friendly (I am also monitoring the link with my Ocelot).

Questions...

- The Plug-In still has "Disabled" in the X10 column. Does not change on a click. Should that enabled? FYI, the X10 CM11A/CM12U and CM15AUSB are also disabled.

- I have the debug logs on. In the log I can see the Device Control test to turn A1 On (A1 is a lamp and does not change).

- Also in the logs I see the following in a continual cycle, is this normal?
12/12/2011 10:20:21 PM Insteon PLM_ProcessInBuffer received STX 0x52 (Raw X10 Rec):23 80
12/12/2011 10:20:22 PM Insteon PLM_ProcessInBuffer received STX 0x52 (Raw X10 Rec):2D 00

Thanks for your help, I would love to get this working before the holidays!!!

Regards,

-Tom

**mnsandler** · December 13, 2011, 06:43 AM

Tom,

not sure why the x10 column won't enable. make sure the comport number is correct and isn't changing after you click enable.

the continual messages are raw x10. something must be generating them.

until you get x10 enabled, you won't be able to send or process inbound msgs.

any other errors in the log or maybe an insteon error report.log file?

**pbibm** · December 13, 2011, 07:58 AM

Mark / mrmohouse

I think that HS can allow only one x10 controller at a time. Since he has an ocelot, its going to leave ownership there unless he turns on the plm x10 interface. When the PLM becomes the x10 interface, the ocelot will become deselected / deactivated.
Paul

**Pete** · December 13, 2011, 10:36 PM

Mark,

I can replicate the same with the X-10 side of the PLM and trying to enable the legacy CM11A.

I can remember seeing the same maybe 2 years ago or so.

The issue caused an X10 com port debacle until I realized what what going on.

Think I even posted that issue here a while ago.

**mnsandler** · December 14, 2011, 06:04 PM

guys, the "x10 com port debacle" is a hs issue. I've reported it to HST, but I guess it hasn't been resolved. Nothing i can do on my end.

**Rupp** · December 14, 2011, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by mnsandler View Post

guys, the "x10 com port debacle" is a hs issue. I've reported it to HST, but I guess it hasn't been resolved. Nothing i can do on my end.

Mark,
What is the issue you reported and who did you report it too and I'll check on this.

**mnsandler** · December 14, 2011, 06:33 PM

Rupp,

this issue deals with hs changing the com port value that currently exists on the hs setup/interface page for a plugin. so if someone has the 'other' interface enabled and then came back later to enable the x10 interface, the com port value would change by itself. maybe the com port is being changed to the previous x10 plugin com port, not sure.

i think i emailed rich a long time ago about this. i didn't submit a ticket

**Pete** · December 14, 2011, 06:59 PM

Here are some pics

Attached Files

**mrmohouse** · December 15, 2011, 02:07 PM

In my case it was one part not know how HS should be setup, one part HS not support FireFox or Chrome (I would click the enable but nothing would happen... really!), and one part really bad usability in HS (last I will stay there).

Working now and have a couple other issues to work through but I appreciate the help very much!!!

-Tom

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