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    Trouble with Event/Scene/Group

    Having trouble with an event that turns on my "sunrise" scene/group. It seems to work on some of the units, but then gets "tired" and doesn't do the rest.

    I created a test event that just turns the scene on. I switched to Detailed logging, and ran the event. There are 22 participants in the group, but, well, here's the result:

    Jul-21 8:04:42 AM Event Running script statement immediately: &hs.WriteLog "TEST","****************"
    Jul-21 8:04:42 AM TEST ****************
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Device Control Device: Scene Sunrise to On (1)
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting value for Group:16
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:14.52.DB link record #12 target channel 1
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device 14.52.DB:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:14.56.31 link record #1 target channel 1
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device 14.56.31:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:18.6F.9E link record #2 target channel 1
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device 18.6F.9E:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:17.8C.B6 link record #13 target channel 1
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device 17.8C.B6:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:19.53.F7 link record #17 target channel 1
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device 19.53.F7:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:1A.AE.B5 link record #2 target channel 1
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device 1A.AE.B5:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:17.57.76 link record #53 target channel 4
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device 17.57.76:4. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Checking for keypadlinc button sync on device 17.57.76 src index 4, SrcIsSyncTarget=False...
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:17.EC.9F link record #6 target channel 1
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device 17.EC.9F:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:18.38.2C link record #2 target channel 1
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device 18.38.2C:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:1A.1B.14 link record #26 target channel 4
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device 1A.1B.14:4. Old status:100 Old Value:100, New Status:2 New Value:100
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Checking for keypadlinc button sync on device 1A.1B.14 src index 4, SrcIsSyncTarget=False...
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:17.EE.D3 link record #5 target channel 1
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Setting status and value for device 17.EE.D3:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon TransmitGroupMsg called for device code: Group:16, RF PLM Group 16
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 00 00 10 CA 11 00 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 00 00 10 CA 11 00 06
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon * Now Initiating group clean-ups for group 16...
    Jul-21 8:04:44 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 14 52 DB 4A 11 10 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:45 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 14 52 DB 4A 11 10 06
    Jul-21 8:04:45 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):14 52 DB 3D 98 D6 66 11 10
    Jul-21 8:04:45 AM Insteon The device 14.52.DB heard and executed the group broadcast command.
    Jul-21 8:04:45 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 14 56 31 4A 11 10 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:45 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 14 56 31 4A 11 10 06
    Jul-21 8:04:45 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):14 56 31 3D 98 D6 66 11 10
    Jul-21 8:04:45 AM Insteon The device 14.56.31 heard and executed the group broadcast command.
    Jul-21 8:04:45 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 18 6F 9E 4A 11 10 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:45 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):14 56 31 3D 98 D6 62 11 10 Debouncing repeat.
    Jul-21 8:04:46 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 18 6F 9E 4A 11 10 06
    Jul-21 8:04:46 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):18 6F 9E 3D 98 D6 6A 11 10
    Jul-21 8:04:46 AM Insteon The device 18.6F.9E heard and executed the group broadcast command.
    Jul-21 8:04:46 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 17 8C B6 4A 11 10 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:46 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 17 8C B6 4A 11 10 06
    Jul-21 8:04:46 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):17 8C B6 3D 98 D6 66 11 10
    Jul-21 8:04:46 AM Insteon The device 17.8C.B6 heard and executed the group broadcast command.
    Jul-21 8:04:46 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 19 53 F7 4A 11 10 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:47 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 19 53 F7 4A 11 10 06
    Jul-21 8:04:47 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):19 53 F7 3D 98 D6 6A 11 10
    Jul-21 8:04:47 AM Insteon The device 19.53.F7 heard and executed the group broadcast command.
    Jul-21 8:04:47 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1A AE B5 4A 11 10 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:47 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):19 53 F7 3D 98 D6 62 11 10 Debouncing repeat.
    Jul-21 8:04:47 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1A AE B5 4A 11 10 06
    Jul-21 8:04:47 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):1A AE B5 3D 98 D6 6A 11 10
    Jul-21 8:04:47 AM Insteon The device 1A.AE.B5 heard and executed the group broadcast command.
    Jul-21 8:04:47 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 17 57 76 4A 11 10 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:47 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 17 57 76 4A 11 10 06
    Jul-21 8:04:48 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):17 57 76 3D 98 D6 66 11 10
    Jul-21 8:04:48 AM Insteon The device 17.57.76 heard and executed the group broadcast command.
    Jul-21 8:04:48 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 17 EC 9F 4A 11 10 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:48 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 17 EC 9F 4A 11 10 06
    Jul-21 8:04:48 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):17 EC 9F 3D 98 D6 6A 11 10
    Jul-21 8:04:48 AM Insteon The device 17.EC.9F heard and executed the group broadcast command.
    Jul-21 8:04:48 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 18 38 2C 4A 11 10 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:48 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 18 38 2C 4A 11 10 06
    Jul-21 8:04:49 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):18 38 2C 3D 98 D6 66 11 10
    Jul-21 8:04:49 AM Insteon The device 18.38.2C heard and executed the group broadcast command.
    Jul-21 8:04:49 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 1A 1B 14 4A 11 10 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:49 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 1A 1B 14 4A 11 10 06
    Jul-21 8:04:49 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):1A 1B 14 3D 98 D6 6A 11 10
    Jul-21 8:04:49 AM Insteon The device 1A.1B.14 heard and executed the group broadcast command.
    Jul-21 8:04:49 AM Insteon Sending command 02 62 17 EE D3 4A 11 10 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
    Jul-21 8:04:49 AM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 17 EE D3 4A 11 10 06
    Jul-21 8:04:50 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):17 EE D3 3D 98 D6 66 11 10
    Jul-21 8:04:50 AM Insteon The device 17.EE.D3 heard and executed the group broadcast command.
    Jul-21 8:07:06 AM Insteon Saving comm stats...
    Jul-21 8:07:10 AM Insteon ..finished saving comm stats.
    Jul-21 8:07:56 AM Insteon Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):14 1D 4A 00 05 35 87 04 00


    I don't know what all this means, but I don't think it's sending to 22 different units?


    Jim Speiser
    38-year veteran of Home Automation
    Still don't know squat

    #2
    the plugin is trying to verify that each group participant heard and executed the group cmd. this can get interrupted by another cmd.

    based on your observation of the physical devices, are all 22 devices responding to the group cmd? that's the most important part
    Mark

    HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
    Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
    Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
    Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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      #3
      Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
      the plugin is trying to verify that each group participant heard and executed the group cmd. this can get interrupted by another cmd.

      based on your observation of the physical devices, are all 22 devices responding to the group cmd? that's the most important part
      That's what I'm saying. No they are not.


      Jim Speiser
      38-year veteran of Home Automation
      Still don't know squat

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        #4
        uncheck the following from the plugin config page and retest the group on/off

        "Perform group clean-ups when transmitting group commands"
        Mark

        HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
        Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
        Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
        Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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          #5
          Didn't seem to have an effect.


          7/21/2017
          Jul-21 3:59:37 PM Event Event Administrative and Testing TEST Sunrise triggered by the event page 'Run' button.
          Jul-21 3:59:37 PM Event Event Trigger "Administrative and Testing TEST Sunrise"
          Jul-21 3:59:37 PM Event Running script statement immediately: &hs.WriteLog "TEST","****************"
          Jul-21 3:59:37 PM TEST ****************
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Device Control Device: Scene Sunrise to On (1)
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting value for Group:16
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:14.52.DB link record #12 target channel 1
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 14.52.DB:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:14.56.31 link record #1 target channel 1
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 14.56.31:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:18.6F.9E link record #2 target channel 1
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 18.6F.9E:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:17.8C.B6 link record #13 target channel 1
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 17.8C.B6:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:19.53.F7 link record #17 target channel 1
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 19.53.F7:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:1A.AE.B5 link record #2 target channel 1
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 1A.AE.B5:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:17.57.76 link record #53 target channel 4
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 17.57.76:4. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Checking for keypadlinc button sync on device 17.57.76 src index 4, SrcIsSyncTarget=False...
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:17.EC.9F link record #6 target channel 1
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 17.EC.9F:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:18.38.2C link record #2 target channel 1
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 18.38.2C:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:1A.1B.14 link record #26 target channel 4
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 1A.1B.14:4. Old status:100 Old Value:100, New Status:2 New Value:100
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Checking for keypadlinc button sync on device 1A.1B.14 src index 4, SrcIsSyncTarget=False...
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ProcessGroupBroadcastUpdateResponders: Located remote link record match for group broadcast - Device:17.EE.D3 link record #5 target channel 1
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Setting status and value for device 17.EE.D3:1. Old status:0 Old Value:0, New Status:3 New Value:0
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon TransmitGroupMsg called for device code: Group:16, RF PLM Group 16
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon Sending command 02 62 00 00 10 CA 11 00 to RF PLM, (Expecting 0 bytes extra back) Pre-Payload ACK:False, NAK is ok:False
          Jul-21 3:59:39 PM Insteon ..Got RF PLM Response 02 62 00 00 10 CA 11 00 06


          Jim Speiser
          38-year veteran of Home Automation
          Still don't know squat

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            #6
            ok. so the group cleanup messages aren't interfering with the initial group msg.

            if only some of the devices aren't responding, please verify that they have a group link in their database (reread links if necessary)

            try creating a few other smaller insteon groups with the devices that aren't responding and see how that goes.
            Mark

            HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
            Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
            Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
            Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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              #7
              Roger wilco. Standby for results.


              Jim Speiser
              38-year veteran of Home Automation
              Still don't know squat

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                #8
                Just FYI...this is on hold, because my disappearing events problem resurfaced. That is being handled at HomeSeer tech support, and the good news is that they have zeroed in on a database corruption problem. The bad news is that its one they've never seen before. But I should have a fix today or tomorrow.

                Once that happens we will revisit these Insteon problems. Thanks.


                Jim Speiser
                38-year veteran of Home Automation
                Still don't know squat

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by JimSpy View Post
                  Just FYI...this is on hold, because my disappearing events problem resurfaced. That is being handled at HomeSeer tech support, and the good news is that they have zeroed in on a database corruption problem. The bad news is that its one they've never seen before. But I should have a fix today or tomorrow.

                  Once that happens we will revisit these Insteon problems. Thanks.
                  well that sounds like progress on the original issue.
                  Mark

                  HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
                  Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
                  Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
                  Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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                    #10
                    FYI this is solved. I just deleted the group/scene and created a new one from scratch. That worked just fine. Thanks.


                    Jim Speiser
                    38-year veteran of Home Automation
                    Still don't know squat

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                      #11
                      thanks for reporting back and closing this out.
                      Mark

                      HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
                      Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
                      Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
                      Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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