Originally posted by julez
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I suspect it uses a PIR very similiar to this:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...ceBeautifyAB=0
Work great as I use it tied to an arduino with the arduino plugin to detect my cat trying to eat our house plants. It's not a pet immune sensor, I don't see anything about this new HS device if it's pet immune or not. Might be important to some.
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Originally posted by thewizardofoz View PostHow does this sensor detect motion?
I have an Aeon Labs version that uses light and heat for motion detection. the problem is that a light turning on will trigger a motion event.
I also look forward to an outdoor version.
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I'm actually using a pair of these in my garage right now. We've had a pretty nasty cold spell where the garage was closer to -15C and they continued to work without any issue even though it says 0-40C. I expect the temperature range is probably conservative.
I do have a coupe questions about them.
1. Since they an be line powered, is there any way to make them so they can always in a listening node state?
2. What is the sensitivity adjustment actually adjusting? Is it the object size it's seeing move? Or the speed of the movement?
3. One observation, seems like it takes roughly 1 second for it to trigger motion. Which is actually pretty good considering other sensors I've worked with sometimes are 4-5 seconds. Are there any adjustments that can be made to make it faster?
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Originally posted by julez View PostI'm actually using a pair of these in my garage right now. We've had a pretty nasty cold spell where the garage was closer to -15C and they continued to work without any issue even though it says 0-40C. I expect the temperature range is probably conservative.
I do have a coupe questions about them.
1. Since they an be line powered, is there any way to make them so they can always in a listening node state?
2. What is the sensitivity adjustment actually adjusting? Is it the object size it's seeing move? Or the speed of the movement?
3. One observation, seems like it takes roughly 1 second for it to trigger motion. Which is actually pretty good considering other sensors I've worked with sometimes are 4-5 seconds. Are there any adjustments that can be made to make it faster?cheeryfool
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Originally posted by julez View PostI'm actually using a pair of these in my garage right now. We've had a pretty nasty cold spell where the garage was closer to -15C and they continued to work without any issue even though it says 0-40C. I expect the temperature range is probably conservative.
I do have a coupe questions about them.
1. Since they an be line powered, is there any way to make them so they can always in a listening node state?
2. What is the sensitivity adjustment actually adjusting? Is it the object size it's seeing move? Or the speed of the movement?
3. One observation, seems like it takes roughly 1 second for it to trigger motion. Which is actually pretty good considering other sensors I've worked with sometimes are 4-5 seconds. Are there any adjustments that can be made to make it faster?- Yes, you can set the motion timeout to something very small like 10 seconds
- The refers to the sensitivity of IR. Typically, this translates to increasing the range (distance)
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Originally posted by macromark View Post- Yes, you can set the motion timeout to something very small like 10 seconds
- The refers to the sensitivity of IR. Typically, this translates to increasing the range (distance)
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This is perfect! Thanks!
Can't wait to see the Outdoor units.
So just a follow-up on 1 with the motion timeout. If I have HS3 try to communicate with the sensor with that low of a timeout, it's essentially listening and should respond then?
Just doing some more configuration yesterday evening I had it set to 60sec for the timeout and at that point I still had to tap the button 4 times to be able to communicate with the sensor in order to see and change the configuration settings or to optimize it.
To follow-up on what cheeryfool said above. Is there any difference in adopting the sensor on battery vs line power?
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Originally posted by julez View PostHa! I was going to mention range also in number 2.
This is perfect! Thanks!
Can't wait to see the Outdoor units.
So just a follow-up on 1 with the motion timeout. If I have HS3 try to communicate with the sensor with that low of a timeout, it's essentially listening and should respond then?
Just doing some more configuration yesterday evening I had it set to 60sec for the timeout and at that point I still had to tap the button 4 times to be able to communicate with the sensor in order to see and change the configuration settings or to optimize it.
To follow-up on what cheeryfool said above. Is there any difference in adopting the sensor on battery vs line power?
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Originally posted by macromark View PostIf you include the unit while on line power, it will function as a ROUTING SLAVE ("repeater"), you won't need to wake it to get into the settings and you can set the motion timeout as low as "0" which will make it extremely responsive.
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Originally posted by macromark View PostIf you include the unit while on line power, it will function as a ROUTING SLAVE ("repeater"), you won't need to wake it to get into the settings and you can set the motion timeout as low as "0" which will make it extremely responsive.
It comes up as Enhanced Routing Slave, but if I test connectivity I get a failed to reach node.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nvjlraiatf...pture.JPG?dl=0
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I'm also seeing the same behavior. The unit only responds to motion otherwise I get the failed to reach node.
Stuart
Auditing node 73 (Node 73 Z-Wave HomeSeer Motion Sensor) ...
HomeSeer was able to send a frame to the node.
HomeSeer cannot test two-way communication with the node because it is a non-listening node.
This was included to the system on a power supply and the battery was removed from the system prior to inclusion and remains out of the unit.
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Originally posted by julez View PostSo I tried this. Completely removed the battery before the secure inclusion.
It comes up as Enhanced Routing Slave, but if I test connectivity I get a failed to reach node.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nvjlraiatf...pture.JPG?dl=0Originally posted by Stuart View PostI'm also seeing the same behavior. The unit only responds to motion otherwise I get the failed to reach node.
Stuart
Auditing node 73 (Node 73 Z-Wave HomeSeer Motion Sensor) ...
HomeSeer was able to send a frame to the node.
HomeSeer cannot test two-way communication with the node because it is a non-listening node.
This was included to the system on a power supply and the battery was removed from the system prior to inclusion and remains out of the unit.
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Originally posted by Stuart View Postjust woke up the unit
optimized
got this after it optimized after wating 15 seconds
Failed to reach node 73 (Node 73 Z-Wave HomeSeer Motion Sensor)
zwave 3.0.1.185 Hs3 3.0.0.402
HomeSeer Tech Version: 1.1 firmware
Stuart
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