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**Rupp** · June 27, 2007, 10:20 PM

Do you have a coupler/repeater installed? If not X10 is never going to be very reliable. The scenario you describe sounds like a noise on the powerline issue. Start shutting off breaker until you can control the lights.

**TeleFragger** · June 28, 2007, 06:01 AM

Originally posted by Rupp View Post

Do you have a coupler/repeater installed? If not X10 is never going to be very reliable. The scenario you describe sounds like a noise on the powerline issue. Start shutting off breaker until you can control the lights.

yeah I have one of these...
X10 Pro Signal Amplifier Coupler Repeater (XPCR)

it is where I was looking at the blinking lights...

I didnt start flicking breakers.. thought about it though but been so busy it wasnt on my priority list... my HS doesnt control the house so much where if it is down I am affected...

but I will try that when it happens again...
Thanks Rupp
~Jeff

**twittydavis** · June 28, 2007, 01:32 PM

Did this start right around the time you installed that new super-duty server? Does it have a noise filter on it?

Mick

**jay** · June 28, 2007, 04:38 PM

I had something like this yesterday, after installing a new Leviton HCA02 coupler/repeater the day before. No X-10 on the property would work. I power-cycled both 120V legs and all's well. The coupler/repeater had shown no noise on the lines but it flashed as though in test mode before I popped the breakers.

**The Gemini** · June 28, 2007, 05:21 PM

Think about this for a minute.... Have you plugged anything new into any outlets.?? New TV, Cell phone charger, maybe moved where you plug in a computer??? Just about anything with a power supply associated with it will be a possible source of noise or signal sucker.
I have one outlet, when I plugged in an older computer to retrieve some old data, I kills a very random number of my x10 stuff.

**TeleFragger** · June 28, 2007, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by The Gemini View Post

Think about this for a minute.... Have you plugged anything new into any outlets.?? New TV, Cell phone charger, maybe moved where you plug in a computer??? Just about anything with a power supply associated with it will be a possible source of noise or signal sucker.
I have one outlet, when I plugged in an older computer to retrieve some old data, I kills a very random number of my x10 stuff.

that is the weird part... i have not plugged anything in recently... but I will do as all says...

I will wait until it happens again then shut a circuit off one at a time.....

that is what is stumping me.... I actually have less on my house electric as my basement flooded and fried 3 computers, dehimidifier and a few other things...

however the one thing that has changed is the weather... so the AC has been on... so i am not sure if that could do it.. I say could as this... right now.. i am shutting off my window light.... it worked.. also turned back on.. that is one of the units in question.... oh well...

**JeffCharger** · June 29, 2007, 06:50 AM

I had a puzzling problem once, where it was caused by a short extension cord. Once I found the culprit, I replaced with a long (unnecessarily long - cord for the lawnmower), and it was solved. I am embarrassed to say that the long cord is still there!

You have unplugged the flood damaged devices, I wonder if anyone has encountered devices that, when plugged in SOLVE problems??

**glt** · June 29, 2007, 06:59 AM

Ok, I must be missing something....

But didn't you post this about the same time as you posted the x10 problems:

"New Homeseer Server and loving it"

http://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?t=121894

Computer power supplies are well known for X10 problems... as are monitors

???

GLT

**TeleFragger** · June 29, 2007, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by glt View Post

Ok, I must be missing something....

But didn't you post this about the same time as you posted the x10 problems:

"New Homeseer Server and loving it"

http://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?t=121894

Computer power supplies are well known for X10 problems... as are monitors

???

GLT

yeah but the new server was up and running for a while as the hs was working fine... so dont think that was the culprit.... I could shut down the new server... but then HS will be down...

**TeleFragger** · July 30, 2007, 09:42 PM

so im laying in bed studying.... and go to turn of my bed lamp.. I have a x10 mini timer

love this thing....
so anyway I hit the off button and my light doesnt turn off.... so I get mad... hit it a mess of times and it doesnt turn off...

so I grab my laptop and it is showing up in the log file...

I use my laptop to try the front porch light and the kitchen window and they are dead again.....

so im fussin with it in bed and the wife turns the dryer on... We have our laundry on the second floor.... I like it there...

well I hit the off button and my light turns off.. I hit on and off a mess of times and it all works now...

so does my kitchen window and front porch light.

I do have a 240v phase coupler
plus a X10 Pro Signal Amplifier Coupler Repeater (XPCR)

hmmm now that I am looking at that.... lemme go check what is up there...
Signalinc 4816B I cant find a pic anywhere...
it has like a 4' wire on it...

should I be using both of them? secondly maybe this unit is bad since the dryer on seems to fix my problem?

hmmmmm
any ideas?

**TeleFragger** · July 30, 2007, 09:45 PM

oh yeah also my log is totally filled with garbage when it isnt working... this just started....

what would cause all that?

this is the freaky one to me....
7/30/2007 8:37:24 PM X10 Received J Hail Ack

but why all these status requests?
7/30/2007 8:38:16 PM X10 Received B Preset Dim 12
7/30/2007 8:38:13 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:38:10 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:55 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:53 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:52 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:52 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:51 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:47 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:46 PM X10 Received B Preset Dim 12
7/30/2007 8:37:45 PM X10 Received B Preset Dim 12
7/30/2007 8:37:45 PM X10 Received J Status Off
7/30/2007 8:37:44 PM X10 Received J3 (?) J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:38 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:38 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:37 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:32 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:32 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:29 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:28 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:26 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:26 PM X10 Received J Preset Dim2 31
7/30/2007 8:37:24 PM X10 Received J Hail Ack
7/30/2007 8:37:22 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:19 PM X10 Received J Status Off
7/30/2007 8:37:18 PM X10 Received J Status Request
7/30/2007 8:37:18 PM X10 Received J Status Request

**neiltimms** · July 31, 2007, 07:43 AM

Telefragger, before i converted to z-wave i used to get that alot (the J Status etc). I found it was caused by one of my UPS units. I stuck it on a filter and all was well again.

Neil

**Uncle Michael** · July 31, 2007, 08:21 AM

I second Neil's observation. I had the same symptoms and it was caused by a very noisy X10 device. Unplugged it. Problem went away and hasn't returned in over two years. The challenge is to find what is causing the noise and either filter it or replace it.

**TeleFragger** · July 31, 2007, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by neiltimms View Post

Telefragger, before i converted to z-wave i used to get that alot (the J Status etc). I found it was caused by one of my UPS units. I stuck it on a filter and all was well again.

Neil

hmmm so lets see what do I have...

in garage..
apc Line-R 1200
computer and 24" crt plugged into that

in basement
apc 1000
proliant ml570g2 dual ps plugged into it
24port gigabit switch, cable modem, linksys wireless, kvm and printer plugged into it too...

so then I need to filter or remove the apc1000....

so what filters do you all recommend?

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