I get the yellow triangle trying to set up an event

[JimSpy]

Trying to create an event that is seasonal in nature - turning holiday lights on and off. I would like this event to fire between November 30 and January 10 each year.

What I have actually done is created the Event Category Seasonal Events, and given it Group Conditions. This is in case I create other events that need to fire during this time period.

I created an event in this category called "Holiday Lights On" that controls the scene Holiday Lights. The logic is:
IF This event is manually triggered 'more on this later
THEN Set Device Scene Holiday Lights to On

Simple enough, but then I want to give the Seasonal Events category Group Conditions:
IF The date is after 11/30/Y
AND IF The date is before 1/10/Y

When I close up the Group Conditions, I get the Warning symbol. Sounds like I have not defined the dates correctly? Or I'm not understanding the use of Group Conditions?

[Uncle Michael]

. . . but then I want to give the Seasonal Events category Group Conditions:
IF The date is after 11/30/Y
AND IF The date is before 1/10/Y
When I close up the Group Conditions, I get the Warning symbol.

Try an OR IF instead of AND IF. The year is defined in HS as beginning on 1/1, so a date cannot be after 11/30 AND before 1/10, because that will require the date to be in two years at the same time.

[JimSpy]

Try an OR IF instead of AND IF. The year is defined in HS as beginning on 1/1, so a date cannot be after 11/30 AND before 1/10, because that will require the date to be in two years at the same time.

I thought that MIGHT be it, but I tried it and still get the warning.

[JimSpy]

Is it possible to say "BEFORE 01/10/Y+1" or something like it? I think the problem is that we're crossing into another year...

[Uncle Michael]

Is it possible to say "BEFORE 01/10/Y+1" or something like it? I think the problem is that we're crossing into another year...

Hmm. That would be I surprise, but I suppose anything is possible. If you can't find a combination that works, here's something else to try.

Create a device called 'Holiday' or something. Turn it on Nov 30, then off on Jan 10. You can then use that device's state as a condition in events.

I'm suspicious that it's the fact that it's a group condition that is the problem.

[randy]

The exclamation mark means you have set group conditions, but have not applied them to any events.




In order for group conditions to apply EVERY event within the group you wish to have them applied to must declare it with

AND IF The Group Conditions are all TRUE (or FALSE)




More in this post.


Uncle Michael is correct about using OR IF in group conditions to cross the end of year constraint. This is a nuance to group conditions that was just pointed out to me a couple of weeks ago. It ONLY works in group conditions and is really quite useful. I haven't gotten around to updating the thread in the Event Clinic, but hope to soon.

[JimSpy]

The exclamation mark means you have set group conditions, but have not applied them to any events.




In order for group conditions to apply EVERY event within the group you wish to have them applied to must declare it with

AND IF The Group Conditions are all TRUE (or FALSE)




More in this post.


Uncle Michael is correct about using OR IF in group conditions to cross the end of year constraint. This is a nuance to group conditions that was just pointed out to me a couple of weeks ago. It ONLY works in group conditions and is really quite useful. I haven't gotten around to updating the thread in the Event Clinic, but hope to soon.

There's an Event Clinic? Details please! And thanks for the info!

[S-F]

There's an Event Clinic? Details please! And thanks for the info!

Yeah. It has a forum unto itself. Under the HS3 section. The new event engine is complicated!

[JimSpy]

OK, so I added:
AND IF The group conditions are all true
THEN Set device Holiday Lights to ON

The lights are turned on in my Half Hour Before Sunset event:

IF The time is 30m, 0s before sunset
THEN Set Device Scene Half Hour Before Sunset to ON
THEN Run Event Seasonal Events Holiday Lights On

Now the Holiday Lights event is called from something; so that should get rid of the warning?

[JimSpy]

Yeah. It has a forum unto itself. Under the HS3 section. The new event engine is complicated!

Ya think??

[JimSpy]

OK, so I added:
AND IF The group conditions are all true
THEN Set device Holiday Lights to ON

The lights are turned on in my Half Hour Before Sunset event:

IF The time is 30m, 0s before sunset
THEN Set Device Scene Half Hour Before Sunset to ON
THEN Run Event Seasonal Events Holiday Lights On

Now the Holiday Lights event is called from something; so that should get rid of the warning?

The answer seems to be "yes", judging from the green check mark!

[S-F]

Ya think??

It's elaborate, that's for sure. And that's why we use HomeSeer! I have found personally that once I got the basic gist of the event creation engine, the world was my oyster.

[randy]

There's an Event Clinic? Details please! And thanks for the info!

Yes there is, it is a HS3 / HS3 Pro section subforum. I haven't put a lot of new posts up lately, but I have a bunch more to do. I have been slammed by my real job Look for it to grow in the next 30-60 days.

[randy]

OK, so I added:
AND IF The group conditions are all true
THEN Set device Holiday Lights to ON

The lights are turned on in my Half Hour Before Sunset event:

IF The time is 30m, 0s before sunset
THEN Set Device Scene Half Hour Before Sunset to ON
THEN Run Event Seasonal Events Holiday Lights On

Now the Holiday Lights event is called from something; so that should get rid of the warning?

The exclamation will will be gone in the group where the first event is located because group conditions were specifically used in that event - it has nothing to do with the Holiday Lights event being called from something.

From the post I pointed you to above: "If you have created Group Conditions, but they are not applied to any events within that group, you will get a waning triangle. As is the case of most icons on the event management page, if you hover over the triangle you will get a tool tip explaining the meaning."

[S-F]

Ya think??

It's elaborate, that's for sure. And that's why we use HomeSeer! I have found personally that once I got the basic gist of the event creation engine, the world was my oyster.