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Old February 3rd, 2017, 01:26 PM
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What is everyone using to control internet radio sources?

Hello all,

I'm at a crossroads in deciding how to integrate internet radio into my HS3 environment. My goal is to be able to choose between x number of pre-determined internet radio stations via web interface or HSTouch, and have them output to my whole-house amp.

I am using the Monoprice 6-zone amp, and incredibly grateful and happy with happnatious1 for making it available to the community. If you are in the market for a multi-zone amp, with awesome HS3 integration, I suggest you look into this option. This part of the equation works great.

I'm stuck at finding a simple AND reliable means to play internet radio stations--preferably on a raspberry pi, and outputting the audio from the pi to the amp. I would like to have a virtual device populated with the currently playing song, obtained from the radio stream.

Please let me know what's been working for you, and how you use it in your home.

thanks

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Old February 4th, 2017, 08:25 AM
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Watching this thread to see if you get a response. I think many of us are awaiting the same feature for HSTouch.

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Old February 4th, 2017, 08:44 AM
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I mix everything here.

For audio did Russound and mixed it with subzones with their own AVRs.

Playing lately with one AVR and while I tested it with the network basically only turn it on and off and use only two audio sources with it. I liked the remote android application for it but it really was overkill for what I am using it for. The AVR does include radio streaming sources. Personally just overkill for an AVR.

That said for the master bedroom with LCD TV / AVR added one HSTouch to the mix connected to the AVR there in the MB. Linux wise one tabletop touchscreen ran Squeezeplayer or Kodi to the AVR. LCD TV has it's own KODI box for streaming TV, audio, video stuff (and connected to AVR) Wintel wise via HSTouch I created radio station buttons on one HSTouch screen which streams whatever I want. It is just local control and local audio. (master bedroom has one Omnitouch screen, a touchscreen tabletop tablet on each nightstand, one in the master bathroom). Main AVR does audio to the master bedroom and bathroom. An AB switch in the hallway changes the audio from local to zoned. Zoned can be controlled via HS Touch.

Two levels down near the two Russound zoned amps do similiar for multiple sources of audio. The devices there are remote controlled and all the same these days; small tabletops on the shelf next to the russound amps (footprint is not as small as an RPi2 though).

All of the above and really here do not watch live TV much but testing live TV streaming these days and mostly just watch a la carte TV via the internet. Wife though watches DTV and records everything. I prefer to listen to music and while I stream radio its only 1-2 stations as I do not really listen to radio in general these days. IE: have satellite radio, regular radio, CD changer, DVD audio player and computer (which streams internet sometimes) in automobiles. Preference is just to listen to my music collection which is duplicated in the automobiles and never do listen to radio these days (which is really just noise to me).
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Old February 4th, 2017, 01:04 PM
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Here just starting WinAmp from the commandline with the URL as parameter. (can be done from within HS)
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Old February 4th, 2017, 01:08 PM
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On the Winamp theme: https://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?t=180949 but obviously Windows only.

Provides a device with the current song etc if the stream provides this info.
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Old February 4th, 2017, 01:39 PM
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I use the open source Logitech Media Server along with the Squeezebox plugin and various hardware and software players. Control is both through HS, the Imperihome app and also a few Squeezebox apps.
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Old February 4th, 2017, 09:29 PM
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I also use squeezebox players on my Pi's attached to my russound unit. I have it controlled thru HSTouch panels throughout the house. It is a pain to add a wide variety of channels easily, but it can be done. I have a select few that I run thru on a regular basis that I built buttons for, but you can also put the squeezebox control URL into an element and control everything from it.

I have had it running 2 years now, and its probably the most solid setup I have in my automation setup.
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Old February 5th, 2017, 09:32 AM
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I also use squeezebox with multiple physical players (radio, boom, etc) and a software players running on the HS3 server with audio output connected to multiple speakers (via a custom switch matrix/relays). HS3 integration is via my squeezebox plugin.


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Old February 5th, 2017, 04:16 PM
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Thanks all for your input. I'm getting the sense that squeezebox is a strong contender.

Just so you all know, here are the options i tried.
1. Installing Mopidy on pi and controlling it via local client (win version) installed on HS3 box. It more-or-less works, but not loving this idea.
2. Installed LibreElec and also XMBC on Pi to get Kodi and tried using the MediaCenter free PI. The plugin is not as clean as I would have liked it, and i ended up getting errors when executing playlists. Decided to pause this approach (for now).

And now I'm installing Logitech Media Server & Squeezebox and seeing what all the hype is about.

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Old February 5th, 2017, 05:04 PM
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I had squeezebox controlled with squeezebox plugin in my old house and had no complaints about it.

When I moved to my new home, there was no wiring for speakers, so I moved to Sonos and couldn't be happier. Comparing the two, I'd have to say that Sonos is more robust and user friendly. It also does TTS better than my old solution.
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Old February 8th, 2017, 01:55 AM
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Winner: Squeezebox w/ HS3 PI!!

Hello all,

I'm hooked on squeezebox. Don't know why I didnt post sooner, or try it earlier, but squeezebox with the HS3 PI rocks.

For those of you that want a simple, all-inclusive, Pi distro that has EVERYTHING you need relating to squeezebox, check out:
PICOREPLAYER
https://sites.google.com/site/picoreplayer/home/news

simply Awesome! in 10 minutes, I have a fully functional squeezebox with all parameters controller over built-in web browser.

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Old February 8th, 2017, 08:44 AM
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Best of all Squeezebox/Sqeezeserver is lite and free.

Currently running Squeezebox server on Ubuntu 16.04 64 bit Linux which is my current MythTV box. Runs great along side of MythTV.

Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1482423225 @ Thu Dec 22 16:25:55 UTC 2016
Hostname: ICS-MythTV
Server HTTP Port Number: 9000
Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8
Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux
Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)

mythbackend --version
MythTV Version : v0.28.1
MythTV Branch : fixes/0.28
Network Protocol : 88
Library API : 0.28.20161120-1
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Old February 8th, 2017, 10:38 AM
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Is there a replacement for the Squeezebox or are people buying used off of ebay?

Or am I just confused???

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Old February 8th, 2017, 10:42 AM
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Is there a replacement for the Squeezebox or are people buying used off of ebay?

Or am I just confused???

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Hi Barry,

Yes, you can buy the official hardware on eBay, etc., but there are a number of free software player options that can be installed on various hardware platforms, such as PCs, raspberry PI's, etc. There are also a Logitech Media Server (LMS) plugins that allow Airplay, UPNP and ChromeCast devices to appear like regular LMS clients. As an example, my Pioneer receivers support UPNP and I stream music directly to them without needing an official hardware player connected to them.

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Is there a replacement for the Squeezebox or are people buying used off of ebay?

Or am I just confused???

Barry
Most of the users in this thread are using a Raspberry Pi as a Squeezebox client.
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Old February 8th, 2017, 10:50 AM
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OK, thanks for the quick replies. My real goal is to control Pandora and SirusXM through HSTouch. Sorry if I've hijacked this tread.

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Old February 8th, 2017, 10:58 AM
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Hello all,

I'm at a crossroads in deciding how to integrate internet radio into my HS3 environment. My goal is to be able to choose between x number of pre-determined internet radio stations via web interface or HSTouch, and have them output to my whole-house amp.

I am using the Monoprice 6-zone amp, and incredibly grateful and happy with happnatious1 for making it available to the community. If you are in the market for a multi-zone amp, with awesome HS3 integration, I suggest you look into this option. This part of the equation works great.

I'm stuck at finding a simple AND reliable means to play internet radio stations--preferably on a raspberry pi, and outputting the audio from the pi to the amp. I would like to have a virtual device populated with the currently playing song, obtained from the radio stream.

Please let me know what's been working for you, and how you use it in your home.

thanks

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I moved to the Sonos ecosystem last year and couldn't be happier. We went with Sonos clients in every room but even with a Russound, Monoprice or other audio distribution system, a Sonos connect makes a great streaming services client. You can use multiple Connects if you want to stream different sources to different rooms at the same time. We have Sirius, Pandora, Deezer, Amazon, etc., our own FLAC music library and other sources. Dirk's plug-in provides integration with HS and the Sonos controller for Android, iOS and Windows is excellent and extremely easy to configure.

While the cost of a Connect is much more than building a Squeezebox client on a Pi, I prefer the Sonos system overall.
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Most of the users in this thread are using a Raspberry Pi as a Squeezebox client.
I'm not sure "most" is accurate. Definitely some. I personally don't have any Pi based players and likely never will. My players include both official squeezebox ones (which are readily available on the used market for reasonable pricing) and software based ones (UPNP proxy and Android software running on HomeSeer WFTT07). There are tons of options including audiophile quality to really cheap/low quality. Our favorites are the official Squeezebox Radios which we use as alarm clocks. The alarm clocks are set automatically based on our schedule using the HS plugin and events, and there are buttons on them that are used to trigger HS events. You can find these for around $100 each and have surprisingly good sound for such a small box.

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Old February 8th, 2017, 11:13 AM
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OK, thanks for the quick replies. My real goal is to control Pandora and SirusXM through HSTouch. Sorry if I've hijacked this tread.

Barry
Hi Barry, you can do Pandora through the LMS environment, but SiriusXM dropped support for LMS a couple of years ago.

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I'm not sure "most" is accurate. Definitely some. I personally don't have any Pi based players and likely never will. My players include both official squeezebox ones (which are readily available on the used market for reasonable pricing) and software based ones (UPNP proxy and Android software running on HomeSeer WFTT07). There are tons of options including audiophile quality to really cheap/low quality. Our favorites are the official Squeezebox Radios which we use as alarm clocks. The alarm clocks are set automatically based on our schedule using the HS plugin and events, and there are buttons on them that are used to trigger HS events. You can find these for around $100 each and have surprisingly good sound for such a small box.

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Thanks for correcting me. It was a misstatement, I should have said that most are using Squeezebox as a client.
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