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Old September 20th, 2016, 05:21 PM
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Circles NEW - HS-WV100+ Z-Wave Plus Water Valves!

Our new water valves are finally here and ready to ship! HS-WV100+ is our new Z-Wave Plus certified water valve system. The kit includes:
  • Water Valve Control Unit
  • Motorized Water Valve (with manual shut-off)
  • Power Supply
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Old September 20th, 2016, 11:37 PM
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Mark,

Stili the market for a wave water valve. Had two of the previous Econet valves fail. Did a RMA and second valve failed after two days. Kinda of gave up and just ate the cost. Part of my issue is location of the water cutoff is outside next to house and outlet in a valve box. Relatively dry but still outside. Not sure if that contributed to the valve failures. It was dry in side the valve box but had two different failures of those Econet valves.

Is this setup rated for outdoor sheltered use?
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Old September 21st, 2016, 12:15 PM
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Mark,
Is this setup rated for outdoor sheltered use?
Specs for the valve (only)
  • Environment temperature: -15℃~50℃
  • Liquid temperature: 2℃~90℃
  • Protection class: IP67

The control unit is not rated for outdoor use.
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Old September 22nd, 2016, 01:42 AM
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IP67 is great for the valve. So, if I'm understanding this correctly, you can mount the control box in a sheltered or indoor location, and run the cable to the valve, which can be *outdoors* -- including the little box sitting on the valve?

Is this just an RJ9 cable? What's the permitted cable length?
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Old September 22nd, 2016, 11:05 AM
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Is this just an RJ9 cable? What's the permitted cable length?
I'm also interested in this information.

Also what is the out come if power is lost to the main control? Does the valve remain in it's current state?

Also Outdoor in the AZ sun can be brutal on plastics and get up to 120 degrees more then once a summer. Has any real testing be done sitting out in the hot sun to see how it actually holds up? This is kind of expensive and not so easy of an install to have it all go to crap after one summer.
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Old September 22nd, 2016, 12:41 PM
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IP67 is great for the valve. So, if I'm understanding this correctly, you can mount the control box in a sheltered or indoor location, and run the cable to the valve, which can be *outdoors* -- including the little box sitting on the valve?

Is this just an RJ9 cable? What's the permitted cable length?
Yes, the valve can be installed outside but the control unit must be protected. Recommended maximum cable length is 20' total. The valve is supplied with a 9 foot cable.
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Old September 22nd, 2016, 12:47 PM
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I'm also interested in this information.

Also what is the out come if power is lost to the main control? Does the valve remain in it's current state?

Also Outdoor in the AZ sun can be brutal on plastics and get up to 120 degrees more then once a summer. Has any real testing be done sitting out in the hot sun to see how it actually holds up? This is kind of expensive and not so easy of an install to have it all go to crap after one summer.
If power goes out, the valve will remain in the same state. You can manually change the state by using the thumbwheel on top of the motor housing. There's a "line" indicator next to the thumbwheel to show the current state of the valve.

The valve is rated for 50 degrees C use... which is about 122 degrees F. We have not done any extensive heat testing on the plastics.
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Old September 22nd, 2016, 12:54 PM
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If power goes out, the valve will remain in the same state. You can manually change the state by using the thumbwheel on top of the motor housing. There's a "line" indicator next to the thumbwheel to show the current state of the valve.

The valve is rated for 50 degrees C use... which is about 122 degrees F. We have not done any extensive heat testing on the plastics.
How hard is it to close the valve with the thumbwheel? Is anything special needed to turn it? Screwdriver, wrench, etc?

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Old September 22nd, 2016, 04:02 PM
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How hard is it to close the valve with the thumbwheel? Is anything special needed to turn it? Screwdriver, wrench, etc?

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Hopefully, you'll never need to use it but if you do, you can turn it with your thumb and index finger and a little patience. It takes several turns to completely open or close the valve. You could speed the process with a pair of pliers but... you might damage the nylon material with the teeth.
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I have the same valve.
Works great.
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well.. I bit the bullet and purchased one, glad my previous order fell thru the cracks..this one looks good, dropped into HS like a breeze. Tomorrow I will drop in ground and see how it handles next summers heat.
so far. e x c e l l e n t........ will post pic's of install
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well.. I bit the bullet and purchased one, glad my previous order fell thru the cracks..this one looks good, dropped into HS like a breeze. Tomorrow I will drop in ground and see how it handles next summers heat.
so far. e x c e l l e n t........ will post pic's of install
Take a video of the install!!!
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well.. I bit the bullet and purchased one, glad my previous order fell thru the cracks..this one looks good, dropped into HS like a breeze. Tomorrow I will drop in ground and see how it handles next summers heat.
so far. e x c e l l e n t........ will post pic's of install
Assuming you have the standard Az water line ... Did you just put the HS valve in line with the existing valve or remove the manual valve with the HS valve? I'm leaning towards the former so my father in law doesn't turn off the water manually when he's checking up on our house.
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Assuming you have the standard Az water line ... Did you just put the HS valve in line with the existing valve or remove the manual valve with the HS valve? I'm leaning towards the former so my father in law doesn't turn off the water manually when he's checking up on our house.
personally I would keep the manual valve. Move it if needed.... Manual is always a nice dependable backup! Just sayin...
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No hard and fast rule here. I'd be inclined to keep the manual valve, since there's no downside to doing that.
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I also kept the ball valve, but I did replace it with a new one
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im gonna gander and say a z-troller will NOT work with this... zwave plus needs zwave plus?
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im gonna gander and say a z-troller will NOT work with this... zwave plus needs zwave plus?
Not true. This is a simple Z-Wave binary device and will work with older systems too.
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Not true. This is a simple Z-Wave binary device and will work with older systems too.
Well that is AWESOME NEWS!!!! Back on my list to purchase (but in a few months)... but definitely in on this now!

was gonna shy away if zwave plus only as I dont plan on upgrading yet.. got so much to do at this moment...
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I should keep the manual valve. I'll have to put it a little sign on it telling my father-in-law not to close it!

The more I think about it, too, the more I think I don't have to install this outside. Our new house has a water softener loop in the garage, and the plumber should be able to put it in there.
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