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Dirk
Not sure if this is driving off the road of your intentions for this or not.
One thing I had under xp for a number of years was an app called Cidero. It would sync multiple upnp players to a single unpnp source creatubg what is now called party mode. It wasn't perfect but it worked.
My desire for this functionality would be the ability to pick players, assign them to a source and pickup on whatever its playing.Paul
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Originally posted by pbibm View PostOne thing I had under xp for a number of years was an app called Cidero. It would sync multiple upnp players to a single unpnp source creatubg what is now called party mode. It wasn't perfect but it worked.
My desire for this functionality would be the ability to pick players, assign them to a source and pickup on whatever its playing.
Dirk
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Not sure if it is part of the DLNA specification or not, but it would be great to have an option to switch devices on/off (in/out of sleep mode).
General control of devices, such as changing channels/inputs/volume on TVs etc. woudl also be great if that is part of the DLNA standards?Nicolai L
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Originally posted by NicolaiL View PostNot sure if it is part of the DLNA specification or not, but it would be great to have an option to switch devices on/off (in/out of sleep mode).
Originally posted by NicolaiL View PostGeneral control of devices, such as changing channels/inputs/volume on TVs etc. woudl also be great if that is part of the DLNA standards?
There is a reason why I love Sonos so much, it allows everything through its UPnP interface but it is all through proprietary extensions and very device specific, so without owning the device, there is zero chance to create support for it in a plug-in.
Sorry for all the bad news, when I began this project a number of weeks ago, it all started with the dreams to 100% control my samsung TV and I quickly realized that vendors don't support a lot via their UPnP interface, just the basic stuff so they can claim DLNA compliance. If you are looking for something to control your Samsung TV (C or D-series), download it here (http://board.homeseer.com/showpost.p...6&postcount=53). What I came to like is that you can pick any of your Servers as a source and start playing some content on any of your DLNA devices (provided it is power on and in some case in the right input mode), including a picture show.
Cheers,
Dirk
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Dirk,
I think you are going in the right direction.
Let your plugin control where the files come from and where they go.
The control of the playback device should be separate plugins.
I would rather have a specific plugin like the PioneerReceivers plugin to control the Receiver than to have an ever growing plugin that tries to control every TV, Blu-Ray, AV Receiver, Sat TV, etc that has DLNA rendering built in.
As to being able to control other plugins, I am currently doing that in my HSTV plugin so if you would like to discuss it sometime, let me know.
I have it setup to where I don't have to make any changes to the HSTV plugin to add new plugins and functions.--
Jeff Farmer
HS 3, HSPhone
My HS3 Plugins: CFHSExtras, Random, Restart, Tracker, WeatherXML, PanaBluRay
Other Plugins In Use: APCUPSD, BLOnkyo, Device History, EasyTrigger, HSTouch Server, PHLocation2, Pushover, RFXCom, UltraGCIR3, UltraMon3, UltraPioneerAVR3, X10, Z-Wave
Hardware: GoControl Irrigation Controler, Schlage Lever Lock, Schlage Deadbolt, Way2Call Hi-Phone, RFXCom RFXrec433 Receiver, WGL 800, TI-103, Z-Net, Pioneer 1120, Pioneer 1021, Pioneer LX302, Panasonic BDT-110, Panasonic BDT-210 x2
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Originally posted by CFGuy View PostThe control of the playback device should be separate plugins.
I would rather have a specific plugin like the PioneerReceivers plugin to control the Receiver than to have an ever growing plugin that tries to control every TV, Blu-Ray, AV Receiver, Sat TV, etc that has DLNA rendering built in.
Originally posted by CFGuy View PostAs to being able to control other plugins, I am currently doing that in my HSTV plugin so if you would like to discuss it sometime, let me know.
I have it setup to where I don't have to make any changes to the HSTV plugin to add new plugins and functions.
Dirk
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Originally posted by dcorsus View PostThanks Jeff, my view as well, not sure everybody will agree
May have to take you up on that at one point in time, still far away from prime time. Haven't coded up the configuration settings and trigger/actions although the plugin should already be generating the right triggers
Dirk
Last week I finally got around to digging in and learning how to add actions to plugins.
Are you going to expose some functions as public so they can be called from a script? hs.plugin("DLNA").function(parms, etc)
That will make it easier for me to add your plugin to the ones I can control with HSTV.--
Jeff Farmer
HS 3, HSPhone
My HS3 Plugins: CFHSExtras, Random, Restart, Tracker, WeatherXML, PanaBluRay
Other Plugins In Use: APCUPSD, BLOnkyo, Device History, EasyTrigger, HSTouch Server, PHLocation2, Pushover, RFXCom, UltraGCIR3, UltraMon3, UltraPioneerAVR3, X10, Z-Wave
Hardware: GoControl Irrigation Controler, Schlage Lever Lock, Schlage Deadbolt, Way2Call Hi-Phone, RFXCom RFXrec433 Receiver, WGL 800, TI-103, Z-Net, Pioneer 1120, Pioneer 1021, Pioneer LX302, Panasonic BDT-110, Panasonic BDT-210 x2
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Originally posted by TrOjAn View PostNot a request just posting a log.
There seems to be lots or red in the log attached, this was the 1st startup after installing.. does it look right?
TrOjAn
Dirk
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Originally posted by CFGuy View PostAre you going to expose some functions as public so they can be called from a script? hs.plugin("DLNA").function(parms, etc)
That will make it easier for me to add your plugin to the ones I can control with HSTV.
Dirk
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Originally posted by TrOjAn View PostNot a request just posting a log.
There seems to be lots or red in the log attached, this was the 1st startup after installing.. does it look right?
TrOjAn
Dirk
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Dirk,
I don't know if it is a limitation of the specification, but maybe you can answer this. I love photography and miss on dlna devices a function to randomly show pictures from folders. All I can find is a radom wander in te folder you selected, not the folders under it.
Is it possible with DLNA, and is it possible to add this in your plugin? That would be a great addon for me
Wim-- Wim
Plugins: JowiHue, RFXCOM, Sonos4, Jon00's Perfmon and Network monitor, EasyTrigger, Pushover 3P, rnbWeather, BLBackup, AK SmartDevice, Pushover, PHLocation, Zwave, GCalseer, SDJ-Health, Device History, BLGData
1210 devices/features ---- 392 events ----- 40 scripts
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Originally posted by w.vuyk View PostDirk,
I don't know if it is a limitation of the specification, but maybe you can answer this. I love photography and miss on dlna devices a function to randomly show pictures from folders. All I can find is a radom wander in te folder you selected, not the folders under it.
Is it possible with DLNA, and is it possible to add this in your plugin? That would be a great addon for me
Wim
I see 2 questions here. Can devices that use DLNA to discover content play things at random? They could. It has nothing to do with the DLNA protocol, it is limited by the effort they put in this to support a proper queue that can be managed. I believe a lot of device indeed don't allow you to create queues.
Your second question is whether the plugin can do. So the plugin has a queue concept, so you can drag anything you want into the queue, save the queues under different names and then randomly play anything from queue. The question that wasn't asked, is can this plugin control your device. I have yet to come across a picture frame that has a full implementation to be controlled from a DLNA control point. I saw some postings here but nobody responded to my questions whether it actually worked.
If you were to stream something to a flat screen TV/Monitor, I can highly recommend the Sony Media Player (100$ range) which nicely shows the pictures and it has additional benefit that you can pre-load the next item which makes for great transition from one picture (or music or video) to the next. Sure there are plenty of other devices out there that support it but I don't think there is any way to find out unless you buy them or people start posting their experiences here.
Hope this helps
Dirk
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