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    #1

    Insteon special trigger / status update

    Hi MNsandler !

    Thx for the latest plugin updates, reliability seems to be improved on our office installation.

    I have a new one for you here, very strange :

    I want to use our exit keypadlincs to trigger an AWAY event that turns off selected devices and so on. Event actions are pretty basic and are mostly Device turn offs.

    If I check the HALL Keypadlinc insteon reliabilityy, it shows 97% which is almost perfect. This keypadlinc is linked to homeseer and a couple other switchlincs and stuff and they all respond quickly and reliably.

    The event trigger consists of an Insteon special trigger " transmit an ON comand" that's associated to button C on this particular keypad and there are no conditions.

    When I press button "C" ( away ), it should run event AWAY_MODE but nothing happens in the log, seems like homeseer does not receive anything, therefore, not triggering the event.

    What's strange is that on first motion in the morning, the HOME_MODE event that triggers fine on motion sends the AWAY button OFF command fine to the keypadlinc and AWAY button "C" turns off fine. That means the servers communicates fine to the keypadlinc but not the other way around.

    This is annoying as INSTEON SPECIAL TRIGGERS offer much more options and control than simple device status. Altought in our problem, since homeseer does not receive any communication for the keypadlincs, device status does not work either.

    Any insight on how to solve this one-way communication ( server -> keypadlinc ) problem ?

    Thx in advance !
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    #2
    Insteon special trigger update

    UPDATE : Polling works fine on the keypadlincs, it is really a matter of the keypadlincs not able to speak LIVE to the PLM plugin...

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      #3
      please try the 'program device for homeseer' btn on the device edit page from within the plugin. seems like a link is missing and may explain why hs isn't responding. if this doesn't correct the problem, please turn on detailed debugging and press a few kpl keys and see if anything is captured in the hs log. if so please post.

      also, what version are you running
      Mark

      HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
      Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
      Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
      Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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        #4
        Insteon special trigger update

        Hello again !

        I have just tried to delete the LOCAL REPORTING TO HOMESEER links and re-do the PROGRAM FOR HOMESEER feature but still no inbound communication from swtich to server.

        Here is log, it shows Insteon datas but these are mostly my staircase and office light triggered by a motion sensor.

        <TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime1 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:06 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType1 colSpan=3 align=left>Event </TD><TD class=LOGEntry1 colSpan=8 align=left>Event Trigger "Louis cams"</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime0 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:06 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType0 colSpan=3 align=left>X10 Received </TD><TD class=LOGEntry0 colSpan=8 align=left>M11 (DooMotion Plugin Louis Bureau) M On</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime1 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:06 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType1 colSpan=3 align=left>Device Control </TD><TD class=LOGEntry1 colSpan=8 align=left>Command sent to DooMotion Plugin Louis Bureau: M11 On Dimval: 0 Data: 0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime0 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:05 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType0 colSpan=3 align=left>Insteon </TD><TD class=LOGEntry0 colSpan=8 align=left>Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):01 12 B9 18 AA AA AA 42 11 04 - Event: New msg for RF PLM, Src[12.B9.18] Dst[AA.AA.AA] {Grp Cln} Cmd1: Go ON Cmd2: 04</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime1 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:05 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType1 colSpan=3 align=left>Insteon </TD><TD class=LOGEntry1 colSpan=8 align=left>Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):01 12 B9 18 AA AA AA 41 11 04 - Event: New msg for RF PLM, Src[12.B9.18] Dst[AA.AA.AA] {Grp Cln} Cmd1: Go ON Cmd2: 04</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime0 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:02 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType0 colSpan=3 align=left>Insteon </TD><TD class=LOGEntry0 colSpan=8 align=left>Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):01 12 B9 18 AA AA AA 42 11 06 - Event: New msg for RF PLM, Src[12.B9.18] Dst[AA.AA.AA] {Grp Cln} Cmd1: Go ON Cmd2: 06</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime1 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:02 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType1 colSpan=3 align=left>Insteon </TD><TD class=LOGEntry1 colSpan=8 align=left>Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):01 12 B9 18 AA AA AA 41 11 06 - Event: New msg for RF PLM, Src[12.B9.18] Dst[AA.AA.AA] {Grp Cln} Cmd1: Go ON Cmd2: 06</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime0 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:01 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType0 colSpan=3 align=left>Error </TD><TD class=LOGEntry0 colSpan=8 align=left>Web Server Error 404, cannot serve file: C:\Program Files (x86)\HomeSeer 2\html/languages_fr.js</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime1 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:01 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType1 colSpan=3 align=left>Event </TD><TD class=LOGEntry1 colSpan=8 align=left>Event Trigger "Escalier cam"</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime0 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:01 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType0 colSpan=3 align=left>Event </TD><TD class=LOGEntry0 colSpan=8 align=left>Event Trigger "Escalier cam"</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime1 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:01 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType1 colSpan=3 align=left>X10 Received </TD><TD class=LOGEntry1 colSpan=8 align=left>M12 (DooMotion Plugin motion meeting) M On</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime0 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:14:01 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType0 colSpan=3 align=left>Device Control </TD><TD class=LOGEntry0 colSpan=8 align=left>Command sent to DooMotion Plugin motion meeting: M12 On Dimval: 0 Data: 0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime1 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:13:54 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType1 colSpan=3 align=left>Error </TD><TD class=LOGEntry1 colSpan=8 align=left>Web Server Error 404, cannot serve file: C:\Program Files (x86)\HomeSeer 2\html/languages_fr.js</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime0 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:13:54 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType0 colSpan=3 align=left>Insteon </TD><TD class=LOGEntry0 colSpan=8 align=left>Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):01 12 B9 18 AA AA AA 41 13 03 - Event: New msg for RF PLM, Src[12.B9.18] Dst[AA.AA.AA] {Grp Cln} Cmd1: Go OFF Cmd2: 03</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime1 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:13:54 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType1 colSpan=3 align=left>Event </TD><TD class=LOGEntry1 colSpan=8 align=left>Event Trigger "Escalier cam"</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime0 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:13:54 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType0 colSpan=3 align=left>Event </TD><TD class=LOGEntry0 colSpan=8 align=left>Event Trigger "Escalier cam"</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime1 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:13:54 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType1 colSpan=3 align=left>X10 Received </TD><TD class=LOGEntry1 colSpan=8 align=left>M12 (DooMotion Plugin motion meeting) M On</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime0 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:13:54 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType0 colSpan=3 align=left>Device Control </TD><TD class=LOGEntry0 colSpan=8 align=left>Command sent to DooMotion Plugin motion meeting: M12 On Dimval: 0 Data: 0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime1 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:13:53 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType1 colSpan=3 align=left>Insteon </TD><TD class=LOGEntry1 colSpan=8 align=left>Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):01 12 B9 18 AA AA AA 42 11 01 - Event: New msg for RF PLM, Src[12.B9.18] Dst[AA.AA.AA] {Grp Cln} Cmd1: Go ON Cmd2: 01</TD></TR><TR><TD class=LOGDateTime0 noWrap align=left>01/08/2011 6:13:53 PM </TD><TD class=LOGType0 colSpan=3 align=left>Insteon </TD><TD class=LOGEntry0 colSpan=8 align=left>Received STX 0x50 (Raw Insteon Rec):01 12 B9 18 AA AA AA 41 11 01 - Event: New msg for RF PLM, Src[12.B9.18] Dst[AA.AA.AA] {Grp Cln} Cmd1: Go ON Cmd2: 01</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

        Lemme know if you see anything suspect, I have renamed the buttons in their respective channel names, Im pretty sure it should not affect anything but who knows...

        Using version PLM PLUGIN 1.5.3.0
        Homeseer is Standard Edition 2.5.0.4

        Thx !

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          #5
          I see the issue..the KPL is sending 'group cleanup' msgs instead of 'group broadcast' msgs.

          how new or old is this KPL (12.B9.18)?
          Mark

          HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
          Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
          Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
          Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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            #6
            Insteon special trigger update

            Am I reading correctly ?

            You have 32 internal Insteon device(s) registered in the system, 0 external device(s), and 0 group(s).
            These devices and groups currently consume 0 link database entries in your interface.
            You have 214 unused outbound link addresses out of 254 total available.

            Is this a problem ?

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              #7
              Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
              I see the issue..the KPL is sending 'group cleanup' msgs instead of 'group broadcast' msgs.

              how new or old is this KPL (12.B9.18)?
              I would say a year maybe... Can I switch this protocol manually in any way ? I can change them in the worst case but it would be a time saver to do it on the software side.

              Thx !

              Comment

                #8
                I just tried to disable PERFORM GROUP CLEANUP from insteon plugin page but still no luck...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by loowee View Post
                  Am I reading correctly ?

                  You have 32 internal Insteon device(s) registered in the system, 0 external device(s), and 0 group(s).
                  These devices and groups currently consume 0 link database entries in your interface.
                  You have 214 unused outbound link addresses out of 254 total available.

                  Is this a problem ?
                  Yes, How about trying the "Update Insteon Interface Address Database" btn on the config page. this will rewrite missing links in the PLM.
                  Mark

                  HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
                  Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
                  Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
                  Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by loowee View Post
                    I would say a year maybe... Can I switch this protocol manually in any way ? I can change them in the worst case but it would be a time saver to do it on the software side.

                    Thx !
                    there is not a switch.
                    Mark

                    HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
                    Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
                    Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
                    Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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                      #11
                      Insteon special trigger update

                      hi again Mn!
                      Ive done an interface reprogram but still nothing, the database consumes 0 links. what is also weird is that the on / load button from all the keypads shows in the unregistered devices with a different insteon adress. I know thw one in the registered device is the right one and i cant manually add the unregistered keypad adress, hs does not add it.

                      tried rebooting between all these tests. negative...

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                        #12
                        Insteon special trigger update

                        Nevermind the second adress showing up on the unregistered devices, mismatch with linked devices... i cant understand why these keypads do not talk to server...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by loowee View Post
                          hi again Mn!
                          Ive done an interface reprogram but still nothing, the database consumes 0 links. what is also weird is that the on / load button from all the keypads shows in the unregistered devices with a different insteon adress. I know thw one in the registered device is the right one and i cant manually add the unregistered keypad adress, hs does not add it.

                          tried rebooting between all these tests. negative...
                          please "Display Interface Links" which will reread the links and update the 0 links number
                          Mark

                          HS3 Pro 4.2.19.5
                          Hardware: Insteon Serial PLM | AD2USB for Vista Alarm | HAI Omnistat2 | 1-Wire HA7E | RFXrec433 | Dahua Cameras | LiftMaster Internet Gateway | Tuya Smart Plugs
                          Plugins: Insteon (mine) | Vista Alarm (mine) | Omnistat 3 | Ultra1Wire3 | RFXCOM | HS MyQ | BLRadar | BLDenon | Tuya | Jon00 Charting | Jon00 Links
                          Platform: Windows Server 2022 Standard, i5-12600K/3.7GHz/10 core, 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mnsandler View Post
                            please "Display Interface Links" which will reread the links and update the 0 links number
                            OK... it shows no links whatsever... that is so strange since everything works fine other than insteon talking to homeseer...

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                              #15
                              Should I "hardware reset and reprogram interface"?

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